Re: CONLANG Digest - 31 Oct 2000 to 1 Nov 2000 (#2000-299)

Muke Tever wrote:

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> > Off topic: I like how in German "s" represents /z/ in most situations,
> > and "z" represents /ts/, and "ss" represents /s/. However, I decided to
> > use the Polish convention of "c" for /ts/, and thus if "s" represents
> > /z/, what does "z" represent, and what represents /s/? Any ideas out
> > there?
>
> "z" represents /s/, as in Zpanish. ;)
That's an interesting reversal, it would certainly be exotic, which in
some situations is a very good thing. In this case, though, it'd be
counter intuitive to both Polish & German speakers, and those are my two
main influences as far as orthography goes.

> > From:    Robert Hailman <robert@...>
> > Subject: Re: YAC: or more exactly: yet another conlang sketch
> >
> > > > How will I represent /S/ and /Z/? Right now they're "sz" and "z" with
> a
> > > > dot above it, respectively.
> > >
> > > I like "sz" and "zs".
> >
> > Actually, that's exactly what I was thinking of doing.
> >
> > /tS/ and /dZ/? Right now, "cz" and "dz(dot)". Maybe "cz" and "zz"...
>
> In Hadwan/Atlantic I have:
>
>       /s/ - s         (Hadwan, Atlantic)
>       /z/ - z         (Hadwan, Atlantic)
>      /ts/ - c<dot>    (Hadwan)
>      /dz/ - z<dot>    (Hadwan)
>      /tS/ - c<acute>  (Atlantic)
>      /dZ/ - j         (Hadwan, Atlantic)
>       /S/ - s<acute>  (Hadwan, Atlantic)
>       /Z/ - z<acute>  (Atlantic)
Ooh, I like this system. I like putting accents on consonants. :o)

> I come to think, however, that I don't like <j> for /dZ/.  (and "dz<acute>"
> is unappetizing)
> If I wanted a _regular_ system, it'd be z<acute>, and then /S/ and /Z/ could
> be s-caron and z-caron or somesuch...  But I don't really like carons.
> (Suggestions?)
No suggestions, but carons are our friends. :o)

> > From:    Roger Mills <romilly@...>
> > Subject: Re: CHAT:  Keyboard (Was: YAC: or more exactly: yet another
> conlang
> >          sketch)
> >
> > In MOST (European and English) languages, the
> > sequence -ij- is fairly uncommon, so the arms for those letters could be
> > close together, also they are struck by the strongest fingers (resp. Right
> > hand 3d and index).
>
> (On my keyboard I and J are both left hand index finger.)
I could type it like that, but it's more comfortable for me to do it
with my middle finger.

> > From:    Robert Hailman <robert@...>
> > Subject: Re: CHAT:  Keyboard (Was: YAC: or more exactly: yet
> anotherconlang
> >          sketch)
> >
> > > With the computer, there no real reason to continue qwerty......, tho
> I've
> > > not tried an abcdefg.... keyboard.  Old dogs, new tricks, who needs it.
> >
> > I've never come across an abcdefg... keyboard, or heard of one. I do
> > know of the Dvorak layout, but I've never seen a Dvorak keyboard
> > anywhere.
>
> I made my own (basically I dismantled my qwerty and rearranged the keycaps).
How'd you get the computer to interperet the keystrokes as their new
vowels? I wouldn't mind dowing this, on the computer in my room.