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CONLANG Digest - 31 Oct 2000 to 1 Nov 2000 (#2000-299)

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Thursday, November 2, 2000, 14:49
> From: daniel andreasson <daniel.andreasson@...> > Subject: Re: Language uploaded, finally... > > Or if you want something unique, call them "coral" and "oblique", > since you use nominative for all core cases. :)
"coral" and *sponge* !
> From: Robert Hailman <robert@...> > Subject: Re: YAC: or more exactly: yet another conlang sketch > > > But two days ago I drew a small map of an island where I'm > > thinking of putting the Rinyi (or whatever the name of the > > people will be. Perhaps Rijni ;) ). I'm thinking of placing > > the Nakiltipkas (speaking Nakiltipkaspimak) there as well.
> Of course, this raisis the question of how Rinyi and Nakiltipkaspimak > (dear God, that's a long time) came to be spoken on the same island, if > the two languages aren't related at all.
For Hadwan/Atlantic and Daimyo the answer is: Hadwan speakers arrived 4th c. AD from the east, Daimyo speakers arrived somewhat later from ?elsewhere (North Africa, maybe). Daimyo speakers do not learn any Atlantic but Atlantic has Daimyo borrowings.
> Off topic: I like how in German "s" represents /z/ in most situations, > and "z" represents /ts/, and "ss" represents /s/. However, I decided to > use the Polish convention of "c" for /ts/, and thus if "s" represents > /z/, what does "z" represent, and what represents /s/? Any ideas out > there?
"z" represents /s/, as in Zpanish. ;)
> From: Robert Hailman <robert@...> > Subject: Re: YAC: or more exactly: yet another conlang sketch > > > > How will I represent /S/ and /Z/? Right now they're "sz" and "z" with
> > > dot above it, respectively. > > > > I like "sz" and "zs". > > Actually, that's exactly what I was thinking of doing. > > /tS/ and /dZ/? Right now, "cz" and "dz(dot)". Maybe "cz" and "zz"...
In Hadwan/Atlantic I have: /s/ - s (Hadwan, Atlantic) /z/ - z (Hadwan, Atlantic) /ts/ - c<dot> (Hadwan) /dz/ - z<dot> (Hadwan) /tS/ - c<acute> (Atlantic) /dZ/ - j (Hadwan, Atlantic) /S/ - s<acute> (Hadwan, Atlantic) /Z/ - z<acute> (Atlantic) I come to think, however, that I don't like <j> for /dZ/. (and "dz<acute>" is unappetizing) If I wanted a _regular_ system, it'd be z<acute>, and then /S/ and /Z/ could be s-caron and z-caron or somesuch... But I don't really like carons. (Suggestions?)
> From: Roger Mills <romilly@...> > Subject: Re: CHAT: Keyboard (Was: YAC: or more exactly: yet another
> sketch) > > In MOST (European and English) languages, the > sequence -ij- is fairly uncommon, so the arms for those letters could be > close together, also they are struck by the strongest fingers (resp. Right > hand 3d and index).
(On my keyboard I and J are both left hand index finger.)
> From: Robert Hailman <robert@...> > Subject: Re: CHAT: Keyboard (Was: YAC: or more exactly: yet
> sketch) > > > With the computer, there no real reason to continue qwerty......, tho
> > not tried an abcdefg.... keyboard. Old dogs, new tricks, who needs it. > > I've never come across an abcdefg... keyboard, or heard of one. I do > know of the Dvorak layout, but I've never seen a Dvorak keyboard > anywhere.
I made my own (basically I dismantled my qwerty and rearranged the keycaps). *Muke! --