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CHAT: digraphs vs. diacritics (was:Umberto Eco and Esperanto)

From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Monday, June 14, 1999, 20:49
At 16:44 +0200 13.6.1999, Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 01:45:47 -0500 >> From: Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> >> >> Question: About this, and German's, <ue> convention, does actual <ue> >> not exist in German? Because it seems to me that if it did, there could >> be confusion over whether <ue> meant <u"> or "really" <ue>, > >I'm sure it does --- but probably only a few instances are likely to >cause serious confusion. It's just some more cases where you have to >know what the word means to pronounce it. > >People use the same convention in Danish --- ae oe aa for =E6 =F8 =E5, and
And some people use aa ae oe for =E5 =E4 =F6 in Swedish. I think that apart= from us that used to read teleprinter news when abroad it is a little less well-known here than in Denmark and Norway -- and perhaps not as easily "reinvented" since we did not use aa orthographically as recently, and because we don't have the =E6 (&aelig;) graph. There are a couple of possible ambiguities with "real" oe, but i think all are disambiguated by context. Currently we have a fad of "Anglicization" by stripping the diacritics. Yech= ! One bank had to re-Sueticize its spelling IOT not losing its private savers, but apart from that the silly fad goes on...
>I'm only aware of one bad ambiguity --- but it's real bad, OTOH: > > sukkerr=F8r "sugar canes" vs. sukkerroer "sugar beets"
But I suppose you could write sukkerro'er for the latter? -- at least foreign words ending in -a and -o seem to get an apostrophe plural quite regularly in Danish.
> >Apart from that, I think most people get used to reading the stuff >very quickly. It's certainly better than downconverting to a o a as >some mailers will do.
Yes, I have no problem reading it, whereas "stripped" diacritics makes texts virtually unreadable.
> >Lars Mathiesen (U of Copenhagen CS Dep) <thorinn@...> (Humour NOT marke=
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