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Re: Is this realistic?

From:Rob Haden <magwich78@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 2, 2003, 23:02
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 17:08:49 EDT, David J. Peterson <ThatBlueCat@...>
wrote:

>Therefore, if you combined aorist and anterior, how could it be the >perfective? It'd be the anterior, wouldn't it? Since aorist is the
unmarked form of
>the verb. If you could, there'd be no way to form the anterior, via the >scheme you set out. To represent it graphically: > >maka = "to eat" >na = anterior >ki = "I" > >So... > >ki maka = "I eat" aorist > >na ki maka = "I ate/have eaten" perfective > >na ki maka = ? anterior > >Did I get that right, or did I miss something? (And, just as a refresher, >what exactly does "aorist" mean? I've never been clear. I still use
terms
>like "present", "past" and "future".) > >-David
Microsoft Encarta Online Dictionary defines "aorist" as "a verb tense used to express a past action in an unqualified way, without specifying whether that action was repeated, continuing, or completed or how long it lasted, found especially in classical Greek." So it appears that I used the wrong term there. I will use "punctual" instead. The simple form of the verb, then, is concomitant tense, punctual aspect, and indicative mood. I would say that the imperfect would be formed first, by anterior tense + progressive aspect. Once this happened, anterior + punctual would be reinterpreted as a perfect (i.e., an action completed in the past, as in "I have eaten"). Using your words, let me add another formant _su_ meaning "progressive": ki maka = I eat ki makasu = I am eating ki makana = I ate / I have eaten ki makasuna ~ makanasu = I was eating - Rob

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