Re: USAGE: Glottal stop for /t/ (was Re: 2nd person pronoun for
|From:||Roger Mills <romilly@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, September 22, 2002, 21:49|
John Cowan wrote:
>Roger Mills scripsit:
>> >don't have nasal plosion....
>> Not quite sure what you mean by this.....
>This is Ladefoged's term for a stop that is released by opening the
>nasal rather than the oral passage, which is how I pronounce "button"
Ah, OK. That's true for me, too. Though there can be a difference between
[bV?n=] and [bVt|n=] (or perhaps [bV?t|n=] for this last, where the [?t|] is
a single movement, then released nasally).....Seems to be a matter of
timing-- when the tongue moves to the alveolar ridge. Very hard to
I suppose "nasal plosion" accounts for things like (reported) German
|sieben| ['zibm=] or |sagen| ['zaGN=]; or caricatured Black speech |heaven|
In the Clinton, Fenton, muntin words, I suspect the velum remains open from
the initial-syl. vowel onwards, so it's debatable whether the final [@n] or
[n=] is a real [n] or a [t] with nasal plosion. I'm sure that, face to
face, I could produce clearly differentiated ['klI~?n=] vs. ['klI~t|n=] for
you. (The former is definitely faster fast speech than the latter...or it
may be that I'm just weird :-)) )