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Betreft: Re: New Lang: Leropho (LONG !)

From:Rob Nierse <rnierse@...>
Date:Thursday, April 20, 2000, 10:13
>>> Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...> 04/18 9:00 >>>
At 4:01 pm +0200 17/4/00, Rob Nierse wrote: [....]
> >Then I decided to make a lang that sounds like Greek, but has other >morphology and syntax.
As Greek has had so much phonetic variation over the three half thousand years during which it has been recorded, I think this needs defining. Sounds like what Greek? ----> As I said I never took class in Greek. So Greek to me is Modern Greek (what I hear on vacation). I have to admit, it was quite a challenge to create somthing that has to look like somthing I didn't know. <---- <snip> The consonants you give below are certainly not ancient Greek of any kind, but are similar to that of modern Greek, tho lacking /z/. ----> No surprise it looks like Modern Greek when you know the above story. <----
>I started to make words to show what the lang ultimately should look >(=sound) like. Funny detail: I added the phoneme 'pt', because I thought >it was a phoneme in Greek (because of the words "Ptolemeus", >"pterodactylus" etc). Ed pointed out that that wasn't the case.
No. it's two phonemes but often, especially in initial position, derived from a ProtoGreek palatalized [p]. ----> Ed told me the same story. So I've learned something new on the way :-)
>Here is the phoneme inventory. Note that I forgot sounds like 'ts':
<snip> If /ks/ is included, why not /ps/ which has beren represented by a single letter psi for more than two & half thousand years? ----> You're damn right. Fun thing is, 'ps' is there, but not mentioned in the inventory! Both Ed and me must have overlooked it. Note that quite soon we abandoned 'looking Greekish'. We still want (in the end) use the Greek alphabet. Since we make 'pt' a phoneme, we have to make a sign to represent it. Do you have any ideas of a symbol that can represent 'pt' and looks Greekish (don't ask me "what is greekish to you!") ? <----
>Vowels and diphtongs >i e a o u (spelled 'ou') >ei eu ai au
<snip>
>What do you think of it? I'm very interested in your >feedback!
I think the bits I've snipped are the most interesting. I like the idea of the verbs incorporating both subject & object and, where appropriate, the indirect object. Reminds me a bit of Basque. ---> Thank you. Basque incorporates IO too, but it wasn't on my mind when creating this. I got ot from Circassian.
>Tomorrow I'll show the compound verbs, tense/mood/ >aspect, nouns, and some adjectives
Look forward to it. ---> Here it comes! And thanks for your feedback! Rob <---