Re: Re SwedishNorwegianDanish6.txt

>From: BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
>Subject: Re SwedishNorwegianDanish6.txt
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:47:35 +0200
>Why **Dutch**?  Surely you mean **Danish**!?
>Det finns många danskar som kan prata svenska
>"De fenns monga dånskå som kån pråta svenska"
>
>Der er ingen svenskere der kan snakke dansk!
>Because they don't even try!
I'd believe that. But are the Danish really any better at speaking Swedish?
Ah, actually, I recently met a Dane who had lived in Sweden 30 years and
spoke to me in Swedish. He told me he was Danish, at which point I switched
into Danish, but he seemed to prefer speaking Swedish himself.

>A question to the danes out there (Lars and Kristian! :-): when I speak
>Danish I make no attempt at using the stød -- except in the word _ikke_
>/i?/ :-) --  Which sounds actually worst: no stød or misapplied stød?
Though I'm not Danish in terms of blood, I believe I'm qualified to answer,
as I speak Danish at the native level; mis- or overapplied stöd is
definitely worse. It sounds horrible. And I don't agree with 'ikke' as [i?];
I'd say [Ik?], or something like that. [i?] would be typical "over-stöd",
where the glottal stop is allowed to overtake the other stop, which sounds
"barbaric". Never overdo the stöd, it should be "gentle", if that could ever
be said of a glottal stop. Icelandic Danish is so horrible because they
overdo the stöd, like [vi? i? is?lan? t&?l@? sO?dan?] (!)
  I posted, perhaps 6 weeks ago, some thoughts on tonality in Danish. I
wondered whether tones mostly or exclusively expressed the endings -, -e,
and -er. The Danes replied that that's stöd, which I confused as tones. But
I don't think that's the whole truth. There is some tone swinging involved,
I believe, on a very relative level. Mastering that tone technique might get
you around the stöd problem, as I think it's the appropriate tonation which
makes people's Danish sounds good.

Oskar


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