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Re: Re SwedishNorwegianDanish6.txt

From:Oskar Gudlaugsson <hr_oskar@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 30, 2000, 19:26
>From: BP Jonsson <bpj@...> >Subject: Re SwedishNorwegianDanish6.txt >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:47:35 +0200
>Why **Dutch**? Surely you mean **Danish**!? >Det finns många danskar som kan prata svenska >"De fenns monga dånskå som kån pråta svenska" > >Der er ingen svenskere der kan snakke dansk! >Because they don't even try!
I'd believe that. But are the Danish really any better at speaking Swedish? Ah, actually, I recently met a Dane who had lived in Sweden 30 years and spoke to me in Swedish. He told me he was Danish, at which point I switched into Danish, but he seemed to prefer speaking Swedish himself.
>A question to the danes out there (Lars and Kristian! :-): when I speak >Danish I make no attempt at using the stød -- except in the word _ikke_ >/i?/ :-) -- Which sounds actually worst: no stød or misapplied stød?
Though I'm not Danish in terms of blood, I believe I'm qualified to answer, as I speak Danish at the native level; mis- or overapplied stöd is definitely worse. It sounds horrible. And I don't agree with 'ikke' as [i?]; I'd say [Ik?], or something like that. [i?] would be typical "over-stöd", where the glottal stop is allowed to overtake the other stop, which sounds "barbaric". Never overdo the stöd, it should be "gentle", if that could ever be said of a glottal stop. Icelandic Danish is so horrible because they overdo the stöd, like [vi? i? is?lan? t&?l@? sO?dan?] (!) I posted, perhaps 6 weeks ago, some thoughts on tonality in Danish. I wondered whether tones mostly or exclusively expressed the endings -, -e, and -er. The Danes replied that that's stöd, which I confused as tones. But I don't think that's the whole truth. There is some tone swinging involved, I believe, on a very relative level. Mastering that tone technique might get you around the stöd problem, as I think it's the appropriate tonation which makes people's Danish sounds good. Oskar _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at