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Re: Hi to the Ukraine from Tokyo

From:Y.Penzev <yitzchaq@...>
Date:Monday, November 26, 2001, 7:35
Re: laokou on Saturday, November 24, 2001 1:45 AM

> So where, for those of us who want our langs to reflect some sort of
native
> pronunciation, does this lie? > > /ki:Ev/, /ki:Ef/, /kjEv/, /kjEf/, /kjIv/, /kjIf/, /kjWv/, kjWf/, etc.
From the native Kievites speaking English I hear it in any case like /ki:@f/ or /ki:j@f/ with no regard to the spelling. For me, KYIV is odd too, though it was officially approved by the Ukrainian government (just the same way as omitting 'the' in front of the name 'Ukraine')