Re: Odd construct

In a message dated 10/11/01 1:01:19 PM, agricola@WAM.UMD.EDU writes:

<< Ah, but there's a shift in meaning. At least for me, those
two sentences are not equivalent. At least, it would be
a little unnatural sounding to take the meaning of "there"
in the original to be locative:

There are X = X exists (w/o regard to specific place)
X are there = X are currently located in that place
 >>

    Such is true, but I think the original brings to rise, possibly, the
origin of the phrase, which that got extended metaphorically/semantically.

-David