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Northern Russian dialects (was definite/indefinite articles)

From:Pavel Iosad <edricson@...>
Date:Thursday, April 3, 2003, 17:28

[Peter Clark, replying to myself:]
> > Yes, this is true of some Arkhangel'sk dialects - the > suffixes are, for > > masc, fem and neut, respectively, -ot, -ta, and -to, as in > _xozyain-ot_, > > _xozyaika-ta_ etc. > Fascinating. Is there a plural ending, e.g. _chasy-ty_?
Of course. Only the plural, as just that of the normal deictic, is _-te_. [...]
> So rather than _kniga byla napisana tri goda nazad_ > ir would be _knigy byla (bylo?) napisana..._? Very interesting.
_knigu bylo napisano_ Book.ACC be.PAST.SG.NEUT write.PART.PERF.SG.NEUT. The same holds true for Ukrainian or Polish. %--------- [John Cowan wrote, replying to BP Jonsson:]
> > The similarity between Arxangel'sk and Bulgarian articles is really > > fascinating. > > Maybe its precursor was optionally present in proto-Slavic?
I don't think so. We have the full forms of the adjectives, which are (by some) supposed to stem form the short ones + cliticized article, but the deictic element is different (*j- for adjectives, *t- for nouns (and also *n- and *(o)v- for nouns in literary Macedonian and sometimes also *s- in certain Bulgarian dialects))
> IIRC the Bulgarian article derives from a demonstrative, just like in > Romance and Germanic.
Quite true. So do the Northern Russian ones. Pavel -- Pavel Iosad Is mall a mharcaicheas am fear a bheachdaicheas --Scottish proverb