Re: Fluency Wish-List (and question)

Barry Garcia wrote:
>CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU writes:
>>ILOCANO: The mother tongue of the majority of my Filipino relatives. I
>>have never ever been able to communicate with them properly.
>
>Eww.....Ilocano :) Kidding :). Actually that's pretty cool Kristian. My
>friend mike is Ilocano and all he knows are the bad words, and a few
>familial terms.
Same here.

I happen to like the way it sounds too, compared to other
Filipino languages. Like other languages belonging to the
Northern Philippine branch, Ilocano sounds essentially like
Tagalog spoken by a Balikbayan from Indo-China. There's an
essential for you, John Cowan. (A 'Balikbayan' is a Filipino
who has worked overseas). Boreanesian itself could essentially
sound like Khmer as spoken by a Japanese with a Vietnamese
accent struggling to overcome the effects of a cleft palate.
There's another one, John.

>Another of the Philippine langs i'd like to know is
>actually Chavacano. My friend liz speaks it fluently, and even though it's
>a creole, it´s still wonderful to listen to.
I know very rudimentary Chavacano (Cavite dialect). I guess that's
another one I'd also like to learn properly.

>Which brings me to several questions :
>
>I have been thinking of doing a creole based off of Saalangal (yeah I
>know, yet another conlang). Now, would it be best to do a pidgin first,
>and then evolve it from there? Or  would it be simpler to just go in full
>force and do a creole? I know the substrata would be Saalangal, and the
>lexicon would be the other language, and i'm thinking either English or
>Spanish (this would be a personal project just for fun).  Also, are there
>any resources on the net that explains how creoles work?
Don't know any online resources. But since you're doing this
for 'fun' (and I think I know what you mean by that), then why
not just mix everything together in a bottle and see what comes
out on paper when you pour it - I mean that figuratively, of
course. ;-)

-kristian- 8)