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Re: glottals

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
Date:Sunday, February 1, 2004, 23:24
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 05:03  PM, Roger Mills wrote:

> Alexandre Lang wrote: > > >>> OTOH [aa] will most likely involve continuous voicing in the interval >>> between the two a's (the so-called "voiced h", or "hiatus". It's two >>> distinct syllables. Note that that [a(H)a] is not a long a, which is >>> simply >>> the prolongation of the single vowel sound, so [a:], usually >>> considered >>> just >>> one distinct syllable. >> >> Is it phonetically legal to have [aa]? i always thought it wasn't >> possible to have 2 vowels together in a row... >> -- > I don't see why not, _phonetically_; after all, you can have sequences > of > two distinct V (cf. the Fr. name Raoul, or Span. leer, imperative lee, > pret. > leí), so identicals must be possible too. But it's true that most > natlangs > seem to go out of their way to avoid such sequences, usually by > inserting > various glides-- [j] after front vowels, [w] after rounded vowels, and > ...what?... between identicals? That varies, sometimes elision, > sometimes a > glottal stop, sometimes what I'm calling the "voiced h". At least in > my > pronuciation of "Raoul" it is 2 distinct syllables, no pause inbetween > the a > and the u. Similarly in Engl., it's common to pronounce "sea eagle" > (also > known as "ern(e)" ) as ['si(H)"ig@l] (though some might prefer a > glottal > stop between the two vowels
One of the phonological features which distinguishes Goshute from other Shoshoni dialects is the deletion of medial glottal stops, leaving behind a sequence of vowels in separate syllables (and a HL pitch contour). So Shoshoni ['mo?o] 'leg' becomes Goshute ['moo] (or more narrowly, ['mo_H o_L]). Dirk