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Re: CHAT: barbarisms (was: CHAT: Being both theologically correct and

From:Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 15, 2001, 6:08
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 05:37:11AM +0000, Raymond Brown wrote:
> At 9:22 am -0600 14/5/01, dirk elzinga wrote: > >Some > >people do give the name initial stress ['El.ziN.g@], but the > >final vowel annoyingly often becomes a syllabic /r/ (!). > > Interesting - I'd always thought of Elzinga as being stressed on the first > syllable; it never occurred to me to do otherwise (and I certainly don't > add any final /r/! )
I can attest to a "desire" to pronounce a final syllabic /r/. Even though I speak a rhotic dialect (Midwestern US), [@] just doesn't sound right in that position, and my vocal apparatus tends to want to pronounce it [r=]. I think it's because (for me) that syllable has secondary stress, and for some reason secondary-stress word-final [@] doesn't feel comfortable to me, whereas [r=] does. Perhaps it's that I was already familiar with a few names ending in [1N%r=], such as <Geisinger> ["gaiz1N%r=]. I also don't like to say <automata> because my idiolect would render it as [O"tAm@%t@], and that secondarily-stressed [@] just doesn't seem to belong. -- Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo

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