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Re: Help! Verb agreement

From:DOUGLAS KOLLER <laokou@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 27, 2000, 6:49
From: "Matt McLauchlin"

> OK. Lyanjen has verbs that are conjugated for person as well as tense
> Romance languages). For example:
> Iar teuca Áudridan. > ia-r | teuc-a | Áudrid-an > I erg | love 1pSgPrSim | Audrid abs > "I love Audrid."
> Áudridar teuc ian. > Áudrid-ar | teuc-Ø | ia-n > Audrid erg | love 3pSgPrSim | I abs > "Audrid loves me."
> Teuc ian. > teuc-Ø | ia-n > love 3pSgPrSim | I abs > "(Someone) loves me."
> Ian teuc. > ia-n | teuc-Ø > I abs | love 3pSgPrSim > "I am loved."
> Wait a minute... The rule seems to be that the verb doesn't accord with
> *subject* of the sentence, but with the *nominative or ergative* in the > sentence, and defaults to third person singular if no such noun is
> Is there anything wrong with doing this, i.e. does it violate some > universal rule I haven't heard of?
Since verbs mark person, could explicit ergative pronouns be dropped (like subject pronouns à la Romance)? In other words, is: Teuca Áudridan. I love Audrid. a valid sentence? How 'bout: Áudridan teuca . for: Audrid is loved by me. ? (or is it "Audrid, I love." [not husky Sven]?) Can: Teuc ian. also be interpreted as, "He loves me."? or do we need an explicit 'he-erg'? I like the Ian teuc./Teuc ian. split, since they both basically mean the same thing, but there's a shift in focus. Does it work across the board of personal pronoun endings? Kou