Re: CHAT: Welsh-Indian connection proved

The Welsh seems to be correct; I have no idea where the English versions
came from, as they do not match.

My Welsh is woefully incomplete; further, it is a very colloquial Welsh;
further, it is Gareth King's rather controversial interpretation of
colloquial Welsh; nonetheless I'll give this a shot.  I know there are
those on this list with a better command of the language, but heck, it'll
be good practice. :)

Ysgrifennodd John Cowan:

>         A man asked me today if I had heard of the theory that the
>         North American Indians are of partial Welsh descent, stemming
>         from a pre-Leif-Erickson Cymric explorer?  I have gone farther;
>         I think I have proved the theory to be correct.  About two
>         years ago I chanced to meet an Indian in a woodland walk, and I
>         facetiously addressed him thus:
>
>         MARCHBANKS: "Dyna gapel y Bedyddwyr, onid e?" (Translation:
>         "Look you, are you not the son of Mrs. Jones the Gas?")
According to my trusty Hippocrene Standard Welsh-English Dictionary:

That is (a? the? not sure) chapel of the Baptists, is it not?

>         INDIAN: "Nage, nage; dyna gapel y Methodistiad Calfinaidd."
>         (Translation: "Indeed to goodness no!  I am the love-child
>         of Rev. Hopkin Hopkins.")
No, no; that is a chapel of the Calvinist Methodists.  (Or Calvinists and
Methodists?)

>         MARCHBANKS: "Ple mae'r Ficerdy?" (Translation: "Pless my soul,
>         whateffer! do you understand me?")
Where is the vicarage?

>         INDIAN: "Dyna fe; dyna'r Ficer hefyd." (Translation: Yes indeed,
>         whateffer.")
That is it; there is the Vicar also.

>         MARCHBANKS: "Dyna deulu'r gof yn cerdded gyda mama modryba
>         chwaer y crydd."  (Translation: "Then let us sit down here and
>         refresh ourselves with elegant conversation.")
That is the family of the blacksmith walking with a mother of the aunt of
the sister of the cobbler.  (Or maybe those 'of's are 'and's).

Perhaps someone simply took some Welsh phrases at random from a book?
Rather odd.

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