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Rare phonemes (was Re: Using word generators)

From:Jonathan Knibb <jonathan_knibb@...>
Date:Monday, January 15, 2007, 18:18
I wrote:
> maybe German /tS/ > in 'Deutsch' is sufficiently unusual in the rest of the > lexicon to count [as an example of a very rare phoneme]
and Carsten wrote:
> Some more words with /tS/: Quatsch, Tschüss, Matsch, > Ratsche; futsch; patschen, lutschen...
OK, maybe not then. Thanks John V for the Finnish voiced stop example. Off-topic, and at the risk of waking an old controversy about the phonemic status of affricates, do you (calling all native German speakers) feel that the last of these is /lU.tS@n/ or /lUt.S@n/? It makes a major timing difference in my variety of English (pardon the example, but "catch it" has a much briefer closure than "cat shit"), I don't know whether the same is true for German. J.


Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Steven Williams <feurieaux@...>