Rare phonemes (was Re: Using word generators)

I wrote:
> maybe German /tS/
> in 'Deutsch' is sufficiently unusual in the rest of the
> lexicon to count [as an example of a very rare phoneme]
and Carsten wrote:
> Some more words with /tS/: Quatsch, Tschüss, Matsch,
> Ratsche; futsch; patschen, lutschen...
OK, maybe not then. Thanks John V for the Finnish voiced stop example.

Off-topic, and at the risk of waking an old controversy about the
phonemic status of affricates, do you (calling all native German
speakers) feel that the last of these is /lU.tS@n/ or /lUt.S@n/? It
makes a major timing difference in my variety of English (pardon the
example, but "catch it" has a much briefer closure than "cat shit"), I
don't know whether the same is true for German.

J.

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