Re: Judeo-Latin (Ju:d,ajajt,) and Cedillarama

Steg Belsky wrote:

> [I] found the perfect letters for representing
> "soft" D and T in Judeo-Latin ([z] and [s]) - a D and  T with cedillas!
> I was amazed when i found them....does anyone know what language uses d,
> and t,, and what sounds they represent?
D WITH CEDILLA is in Unicode, but I have no information on what
language uses it, if any.

T WITH CEDILLA is a bogus character, really.  When the Latin-2
character set (for Eastern European languages) was designed,
the people who did it believed that Turkish S WITH CEDILLA and
Romanian S WITH COMMA BELOW were really the same thing, and they
included S WITH CEDILLA only.  Consequently, they put in the
Romanian letter T WITH COMMA BELOW as T WITH CEDILLA, which Turkish
doesn't have.  The Romanians have been protesting for years
(mixed in with revolutions and economic disasters) and the next
version of Unicode will finally have separate characters WITH
COMMA BELOW for them.  Since nothing is ever removed from Unicode,
the bogus T WITH CEDILLA will remain in place.  Feel free to use
it however you want.

In Romanian, S WITH COMMA BELOW is /S/, and T WITH COMMA BELOW
is [ts].

> I also found a W with a ^,
That's used in Welsh for [u:], because Welsh encodes [u] as "w", and
circumflex is normal for vowel length.

> However, now i'm thinking maybe i should
> change the S's upside-down ^ into a normal ^, so that it'll match the W,
> since i couldn't find a W with an upside-down one.
As a practical matter, S WITH CIRCUMFLEX is used
only in Esperanto, so fonts containing it aren't as generally
available as S WITH CARON (the inverted ^), which is available
in all Windows character sets.

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John Cowan      http://www.ccil.org/~cowan              cowan@ccil.org
        You tollerday donsk?  N.  You tolkatiff scowegian?  Nn.
        You spigotty anglease?  Nnn.  You phonio saxo?  Nnnn.
                Clear all so!  'Tis a Jute.... (Finnegans Wake 16.5)