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Re: NEWS: MicroSoft's Spanish language problems

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 17, 2002, 23:07
In a message dated 09/17/2002 11.13.31 AM, Kou (latinfrench@SAGESCHOOL.ORG)
writes:

>For me, "native American" first conjurs up images of members of the >Iroquois nation, the Sioux, etc. In recent years that has expanded to >include also native peoples who live in the Great White North. I >don't, however, as yet visualize people south of the border, so >people of Mayan or Aztec heritage would not be immediately included, >though technically speaking, there is no logical reason they >wouldn't/shouldn't be covered by the term, but who promised logic >with these kind of labels. "American Indian" sounds passé to me; >"Amerindian" too forced. And alas, I know no one from said >demographic to clue me in as to what grates and what swings.
Recently I have seen "Mesoamericano" used to describe peoples who use to be called "Latin American Indians" (versus "Iberoamericano" those who are of self-proclaimed pure Spanish descent). AKAIK Meso-americano kind of fits into word forms like "chicano." Be interesting to know what Brazilians think of this issue of labels and identities - as they are not Spanish (well, most of them) and they have an entirely more racially/culturally mixed[-up] demographic (note on Brazilian national identity/pride: I have met Brazilians who joke that God must be Brazilian cuz one can find nearly every possible ethnic/cultural mixture on earth in Brazil. "It's not like United States of tossed salad," one wisecracker said, "Brazil is the _real_ steaming stew." I think she meant "melting pot", but then, again, she plays with words [she's part Dutch]). Anyways ... :) €º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€ø,¸¸,ø€º°`°º€€º°`°º€ø,¸-~-
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