Re: [CONLANG] þe getisbyrg adres

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:23:54 +0200, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> Hence also the preserved distinction between the
> THOUGHT and LOT vowels, and the merging of FATHER with TRAP
> rather than LOT! :)
Where did you get the words THOUGHT, LOT, FATHER, TRAP from? Is there
a sort of standardised set of words to illustrate certain vowels?

For example, the merger of "THOUGHT" with "LOT" I've usually heard
described as the "caught-cot merger", rather than "thought-lot", for
example.

Or did you make up the example words yourself?



On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:03:06 -0500, Mark P. Line <mark@...> wrote:
[about [w] vs. [W]]
> I think the voiceless phoneme must still be alive in some lects.
On a slightly related note, I've heard that some people differentiate
between the vowels in "horse" and "hoarse", and that two of "or, ore,
oar" rhyme while the third one is different (I forget which two rhyme,
though).

For me, the vowel is the same in all cases.

Does anyone know roughly which regions differentiate those vowels, and
how the difference would be notated in (C)XS? Or know any other
example words making the difference and what causes the difference?

That is, what determines which words have the "horse" sound and which
words have the "hoarse" sound? Etymology? Spelling? Tradition?
Randomness?

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

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