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Re: Time to play Identify Those Phones, and a bit of a pharyngeal question

From:Eric Christopherson <raccoon@...>
Date:Thursday, March 2, 2000, 19:49
> ----------------------- > Sender: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> > Poster: Kristian Jensen <kljensen@...> > Subject: Re: Time to play Identify Those Phones, and a bit > of a pharyngeal > question > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------- > > Eric Christopherson wrote: > >> > >> The first one is a dental fricative. The second one is an interdental > >> fricative. They are not known to be contrastive, so both are > represented > >> in the IPA by symbols representing dental fricatives (eg. > theta or eth). > >> But since languages that have them consistently uses one or > the other, it > >> is possible in the IPA to represent the second one with a > 'subscript plus' > >> in phonetic transcription. > > > >Hmm, neither of them is the same as the way I form a dental > fricative (i.e. > >with the tongue blade against the top front teeth). There's no > more specific > >way to notate that? > > Hunh? But you described both of the sounds above as having > tongue against the upper teeth, no?
I thought I said bottom teeth; if not, I apologize. I meant the bottom teeth. Also, I just realized there are two more sounds like the first two that I'm wondering about: With one, the tongue touches the upper teeth, but the canines, NOT the front teeth. With the other, the tongue is places JUST behind the teeth, with a small opening between them, and the friction seems to come from the top teeth and the tongue. Would this be a dental approximant? Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo suHnus raccoon@elknet.net