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Re: Core Cases (was Re: Ditransitivity (again!))

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 20:21
Quoting "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh@...>:

> > The sister lang Steienzh holds on to it's nominatives more forcibly, and > > would say: > > > > Ta teshsh I see > > Ta teshsh sens I see her(/him/it) > > Teshshez sen She(/he/it) is seen > > > > (_Sen teshshez_ would be more neutral syntax in the last example.*) > > So _Teshshez_ is a passive verb?
Indeed. More exactly, the ending -ez removes the nominative argument, promotes the accusative one to nominative, and leaves any datives intact (no English- style "John was given the book" passives). The old nominative may be reintroduced as an instrumental, which means you can have a distinction between _ta teshsh sens_ "I saw her" and _sen teshshez ti_ "she was seen by me". This is not possible to do morphologically in Tairezazh; topicality etc has to be indicated solely by WO and stress.
> > Nonetheless, it does sport the traditional Klaishic "zerovalent" verbs > like > > _kreshsh_ "(it) rains". > [snip] > > Now that's a nice concept, zerovalent verbs. Ebisedian doesn't really have > such a notion, although it's possible to state a verb without any nouns. > It would then be possible to use, eg., the receptive slot to indicate the > land it is raining on, etc..
Any finite Tairezazh verb is in principle a grammatical sentence on its own; you're allowed to leave out all arguments if they can be infered from context or are irrelevant. Steienzh, more conservatively, require an expressed subject except with zerovalents and imperatives. Andreas