Re: CXS changes

Andreas Johansson wrote:

>Various posters on this list, incl yours truly, have used [P] for the bilabial
>fric on this list. Infact, yours truly is in this very moment thinking to
>replace [p\] with [P] on his website to increase the weight of usage in favour
>of a change to the CXS.
>
>
I think I may be guilty of the same, but through error and not
intention, having learnt Kirsh before X-Sampa. I am fully in favor of
this change. If the two currently proposed are implemented, we get:

Stop Fric
p    P
b    B
t    T (dental)
d    D (dental)
c    C
j\   J\  [Alternative proposal: j+ J\]*
k    x
g    G
q    X
G\   R   [Any proposals to replace the stop with <r>? :]
?    h


As you can see, the pattern would fully break down in everything from
and behind the velars, but nothing can be done with them...

* If this is adopted, it'd probably make sense for the as-yet
unsymbolled unvoiced pharyngeal stop to be <x+>; its fricative is
<X\>... I'm going to say, though, that a new modifier would want use
before it gets added. PS: considering the <\ vs >\ pair, ?+ is no easier
to remember than >\ (the angle bracket points in the direction of the
curve of the question-mark-like letter). I imagine the problem with >\
is that, well, whoever uses an epiglottal fricative? Anyway, both >\ and
?+ are evil to begin with...

PS: At the moment, there is insufficient agreement to do anything,
except possibly move <P> to <p\>. My advice for those barracking for one
thing or another: use it or lose it.

--
Tristan

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