Re: TRANSLATION: Portmore

Trey Christopher Wright raf:

> > Post the lyrics. I'll give it a shot.
>I did. It's the sixteen lines of text following "so here it is:".
Ah hah. I responded to Jan's response to yours without seeing the original.

Ki Kristofer Rait tor s'ki spac'ais':

>I was interested in seeing what other languages might do with it.
And so you shall... This will make for a long message, but I thought I would
post the song as-is, then the interlinear, then the excuses.

Portmor:

A nukra Portmor, mirek zajalitam
O toya prona hakuon lai brejobolama,
Daze ot lai ftom pugri nagya niirin tac'ais'
Nar du kra Antrima nagyavukre ver tan proutradve lööseku kuraiz.

A nukra Portmor, nudom tac'at radijat,
Ki nubie dag'yanie ora lok'em kanjeram, ebie nagyayanie kanjeram.
Adis yak'em anc'öc' ba, nunie adnyem yelom anas'et,
Vunec' Inglanda k'rui cemuie o Portmor mu küpöri.

I slüvom avi cemuie ipluradve nüüpiz,
Zduadve o "Kudom nümirvi? Kudom nümirvi?
Daze sinja ki cenizblam, cemuie lasnurjibza,
Ki nukra Portmor tai lunde cemuie u zemu kaec'ov."

A nukra Portmor, nudom tac'at radijat,
Ki nubie dag'yanie ora lok'em kanjeram, ebie nagyayanie kanjeram.
Adis yak'em anc'öc' ba, nunie adnyem yelom anas'et,
Vunec' Inglanda k'rui cemuie o Portmor mu küpöri.

MEZ'DEMLINYATNI:
interlinear

Portmor(1)
Portmore

A(2) nukra Portmor, mirek zajalitam
O beautiful Portmor, see-INF regret-1s.PRES

O(3) toya prona hakuon lai brejobolama,
OBJ this sad destruction-ACC your ornament-tree-GEN,(4)

Daze ot lai ftom pugri nagya niirin tac'ais'
because on your shore-INST many long day-PL.ACC stand-3s.PAST

Nar du kra Antrima nagyavukre ver tan proutradve lööseku kuraiz.(5)
until that from Antrim-GEN long-boats for [it-ACC] CAUS-float-GER
remove-INF.DAT come-3p.PAST


A nukra Portmor, nudom tac'at radijat,
O beautiful Portmor, where-INST stand-2s.PRES shine-2s.PRES,

Ki nubie dag'yanie ora lok'em kanjeram, ebie nagyayanie kanjeram.
and how-much more-ADV about [you-INST] think-1s.PRES, that-much longer-ADV
think-1s.PRES.

Adis yak'em anc'öc' ba(6), nunie adnyem yelom anas'et,
if [me-INST](7) [exist-2s.HYP](8) -IF, how once before [exist-2s.PAST],

Vunec' Inglanda(1,4) k'rui cemuie o Portmor mu küpöri(8).
Old England-GEN lord-PL all OBJ Portmore not buy-3p.HYP


I slüvom avi cemuie ipluradve(9) nüüpiz,
in forest-INST bird-PL all be-full-of-grief-GER cry-3p.PRES

Zduadve o(3) "Kudom nümirvi? Kudom nümirvi?(10)
say-GER OBJ "where-INST sleep-1p.FUT? where-INST sleep-1p.FUT?

Daze sinja ki cenizblam(11), cemuie lasnurjibza,
because oak-PL and ash-tree, all cut-topple-PASS

Ki nukra Portmor tai lunde(12) cemuie u zemu kaec'ov."
and beautiful Portmore its wall-PL all to ground-DAT fall-PAST.PART."


A nukra Portmor, nudom tac'at radijat,
O beautiful Portmor, where-INST stand-2s.PRES shine-2s.PRES,

Ki nubie dag'yanie ora lok'em kanjeram, ebie nagyayanie kanjeram.
and how-much more-ADV about [you-INST] think-1s.PRES, that-much longer-ADV
think-1s.PRES.

Adis yak'em anc'öc' ba(6), nunie adnyem yelom anas'et,
if [me-INST](7) [exist-2s.HYP](8) -IF, how once before [exist-2s.PAST],

Vunec' Inglanda(1,4) k'rui cemuie o Portmor mu küpöri(8).
Old England-GEN lord-PL all OBJ Portmore not buy-3p.HYP.

Excuses:
(1) Rhean prefers to render foreign names as close as possible to the native
pronunciation, rather than translate or "Rheicise" them.
(2) Vocative particle |a|: you've seen this before...
(3) Object particle is omitted in SOV construction, except for special
emphasis. It is used here because the object "the destruction of ..."
follows the verb "to see". Out-of-place subjects and objects are marked |ai|
and |o| respectively.
(4) A noun in the genitive can precede OR follow the noun it modifies. Weird
eh.
(5) The |ver| actually applies to |lööseku| here. |Ver ... lööseku| means
"in order to remove ..." In Rhean, a preposition and the word to which it
applies can become seperated by several other words. Seperation by too many
words, while still grammatically correct, is considered bad style and a
different construction should be used.
(6) |ba| is often used to end an "if" or "when" clause.
(7) "With me there exists ... " means "I have ..." A lot of languages do
this, or somethng similar.
(8) Hypothetical mood: something WOULD be, or WOULD HAVE been. Talking about
something which did not happen or does not necessarily happen, but
speculating on what would happen. A bit complex. I may post something
describing the uses of this form.
(9) The only word I had for "bitter" refers to the flavour.
(10) Rhean actually doesn't have seperate words for "sleep" and "slumber"!
Go figure THAT out!
(11) Bastard term, actually meaning "ash-tree", "ash" as in ash from fire.
Not a real Rhean word.
(12) |Portmor tai lunde| "Portmore its walls" means the same as "Portmore's
walls". This construction is favoured over the genitive when the posessor is
a proper name. I didn't use this with "England" |Inglanda k'rui| -->
|Ingland tai k'rui| because I wanted to demonstrate both.


Well there you go. This is how Rhean mangles that song.

NS

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