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Re: Unilang: the Morphology

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Saturday, April 21, 2001, 20:30
Henrik Theiling wrote:
> >Hi! > >Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...> writes: > > >Regular case endings are indeed agglutinative sufixes, > > >and when they are written with space, > > >they are postpositions, particles and auxiliary words. > > > > Hm, is that strictly true? If I have, for example, a completely regular > > auxlang were the sg nom takes no ending, the pl nom takes _-s_, the sg >acc > > takes _-n_ and the pl acc takes _-k_, this would mean that the lang is > > inflective and not agglutinative, wouldn't it? > >Well, I would not consider it regular if number and case are mixed in >one ending. Yes, it would be inflecting because of this.
So, according to your definition inflextion is irregular by definition?
> > > Neither would it be > > isolating, since atleast _s_ and _k_ can't be words by themselves. > >Why not? Russian has both `s' and `k' as prepositions. :-) And >prepositions are very close to case endings in agglutinating languages >(-> Finno-Ugric).
I know of that Russian habit, but I thought they were just WRITTEN by themselves. If they're truly independent words, then I assume they're actually pronounced as [s@] and [k@], or perhaps [@s] and [@k]? I am, of course, operating on the theory that a 'word' is an speech unit that can be pronounced by itself and is "complete". According to this definition, the reduced forms of the English copula (-'m, -'re, -'s) aren't proper words - you won't say [z] in isolation if asked what the 3rd sg present of 'to be' is. If that Russian {s} is pronounced as part of the preceeding or following word, I won't consider it a 'word' on its own, but rather as an affix. Andreas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at


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