Re: Metrical meanderings

... and now I'm wondering why I refered to meter in the subject line
when I was talking about rhyme.  Anyway:

On 7/6/06, Sally Caves <scaves@...> wrote:
> It's called "internal" rhyme.
Oh? I thought internal rhyme was something else - specifically, rhymes
that occur inside a line, rather than across lines.  To pick an
extreme example, Tom Lehrer parodying Cole Porter: "are you discerning
the returning of this churning, burning yearning for you . . ."

I think the "Eclipse" pattern is still "external" rhyme since it
crosses two different lines; it's just that the rhyme falls in the
last foot of the first line while falling, as you said, in the
penultimate foot of the second.

> Chaucer parodies them in Sir Thopas:
"Thopas" is an odd name.   Perhaps related to Sir Topham Hatt, the Fat
Director from The Railway Series? :)

> Into his sadel he clamb anon
> And priketh over stile and stoon
> An elf-queene for t'espye,
> Til he so longe hath riden and goon
> That he foond, in a pryve woon,
> The contree of Fairye
>                        So wilde!
> For in that contree was ther noon
> That to him durste ride or goon
> Neither wyf ne childe.
Heh!


> As for the consonant cluster split, it's more often found in lyrics to
> popular songs, I think.  So you have a rhyme on "isle," and you "cheat" a
> little by rhyming it with "chile-din your arms."
"Isle" would definitely be a better rhyme for "child in" than than
"wild" is, to me.

> PS: Irish rhyme is interesting in that it rhymes "strong" and "weak" rhyme
> patterns together:  see/country, mile/profile, best/contest, etc.
Hm.  That's definitionally not a "rhyme", to my way of thinking.  I've
rhymed unstressed syllables in my own poetry (for instance, in my
high-school-award-winning poem "Trust", whose first stanza is
reproduced below. :)), but not with stressed syllables.

I watch as the mother bluejay
Gently nudges her reluctant babies
Into the harsh wind, knowing they
Will fly.


>  Your song below doesn't have the second rhyme arrive "in passing"-- it is always in
> penultimate position, so very structured actually.
Oh, it's very structured, indeed.  By "in passing" I only meant the
way that the second stanza continues on past the rhyme without pause.

--
Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

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