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Re: Star Names (was; Re; Back!)

From:andrew <hobbit@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 21, 1999, 1:57
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Steg Belsky wrote:

> Gil-Estel = it says that this is Earendil in Vingilot with his silmaril - > Venus? >
yes.
> Looking at a star chart of the Southern Hemisphere, Wilwarin and the > Valacirca don't seem to be visible from there, where the Rokbeigalm > live.... or are you talking about before the Third Age, when Arda was > still flat?
My planisphere goes from 60 degrees north to 80 degrees south. I don't know if I have ever seen that far north. I will have to try it out and see. The planisphere reads useful zone 30-40 degrees south. I guess the Rokbeigalm would be further north than that, in optimum conditions to see that far north.
> And when the world was flat they would have seen the Unmoving Star > themselves, and not have it be only a legend that only Stiigiyus and a > handful of others have actually seen. That would explain the existence > of the legend. >
I don't think I have ever come across any reference to the Unmoving Star, by that name or any other, in any southern surviving post-bent-sea culture. - andrew. -- Andrew Smith, Intheologus hobbit@earthlight.co.nz Lo! thy dread empire, Chaos! is restored; Light dies before thy uncreating word: Thy hand, great Anarch! lets the curtain fall; And Universal Darkness buries All. - Alexander Pope, The Dunciad, Book IV.