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Re: Romance demonstratives (WAS: Just a Little Taste of Judean (Part 2))

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Monday, April 12, 1999, 15:22
FFlores wrote:

> What was _ipse_? I was under the impression that it meant "same", > "self-" (Spanish/French _se_?) but I can't figure out how that > could evolve to mean "that".
It got weakened to mean simply "this, that". In Sardinian and some dialects of Catalan (as well as Brithenig), the articles descend from "ipse" and take forms like "su" and "sa". The Catalan dialects can actually make a distinction: "la mort" = "Death [abstract]", whereas "sa mort" = "the death [of which we were speaking, etc.]" -- John Cowan You tollerday donsk? N. You tolkatiff scowegian? Nn. You spigotty anglease? Nnn. You phonio saxo? Nnnn. Clear all so! 'Tis a Jute.... (Finnegans Wake 16.5)