Re: IPA for the Vowel in "good"

John Cowan wrote:
>> (That NYC form, IMHO, is at best fast speech/unstressed; it's more likely
to
>> be [h3:d] or [h@:d], lower and definitely more central, I think, than
your
>> [U_c]. I at least can't make your min.pr. convincingly. )
>
>Actually, it is neither.  "Heard" is [hVjd], the same vowel as in
>"oyster" [Vjst@].  Most people outside the city hear this as /Oj/
>in /@R/ words, and /@R/ in /Oj/ words: "hoid", "erster".

Well, you live there, and I don't (anymore)  :-).....  Is that pronunciation
still current?
I know it's the caricatured Brooklyn accent, but thought it was dying out.
(I lived in Brooklyn, and can barely recall hearing it, even some 30 years
ago.)

More generic r-less Eastern speech would, I think, have [3:] in "heard,
bird", etc

Apparently [Vj] or [@j] was also found in Deep South (New Orleans/Delta
area), where it was considered quite upper-class (Tennessee Williams had
it-- there's a recording of him reading a story "The Yellow Bird" [bVjd].)

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