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Re: IPA for the Vowel in "good"

From:Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Date:Sunday, July 29, 2001, 5:19
On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 05:25:55AM -0400, David Peterson wrote:
> In a message dated 7/27/01 8:43:46 PM, romilly@EGL.NET writes: > > << If you have honest-to-God barred i at all, it will be in the plural/verbal > > ending -es after sibilants: roses [rozi-z], kisses [kisi-z], judges > > [dZVdZi-z] etc. You might be able to distinguish "roses" vs. "Rosa's" > > [roz@z], or kisses vs. r-less "kissers" [kis@z]. There's also adverbial > > "just", which is [dZi-st] for many. But it's a fairly fine distinction, and > > perhaps only linguists make it......:-) >> > > Often times, I have [I] in things like "roses" and "poses" and "kisses" > and such. However, I think there's free variation between [I] and [i-].
I'm not sure what I use for the plural /@z/. I know I differentiate between <Rosa's> and <roses>, but what the vowels are I'm not sure of. I still haven't decided how to transcribe that vowel; for a while I tried to write it as /1/ (X-SAMPA for barred-i), as is done in a linguistics book I have, but it still strikes me as a bit odd to do so. But then, so does using /I/.
> <<Then there's the sound we make when we see/smell something disgusting, > > wrinkling the nose and going [i-:::::]; I've never seen that in written > > form, though maybe "oooh" or "eeew" are attempts at it.>> > > I would write, "ihhh" or "iyhhh".
As far as I know that always has some rounding, either just at the end or all the way through. I think it's usually written like <ew> or <eew> or <eeew> etc. Then again, myself and a few other people I know, but not most people (AFAIK), do say /i:::/ sometimes, but that's different. It's usually used as a "synonym" for "um yeah, ok, whatever you say..." when you're being sarcastic, except that it seems to convey a sense of confusion without the sarcasm. Or something. -- Eric Christopherson, a.k.a. Contrarian Conlanger Rakko ^_^