Re: IPA for the Vowel in "good"

On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 05:25:55AM -0400, David Peterson wrote:
> In a message dated 7/27/01 8:43:46 PM, romilly@EGL.NET writes:
>
> << If you have honest-to-God barred i at all, it will be in the plural/verbal
>
> ending -es after sibilants:   roses [rozi-z], kisses [kisi-z], judges
>
> [dZVdZi-z] etc.   You might be able to distinguish "roses" vs. "Rosa's"
>
> [roz@z], or kisses vs. r-less "kissers" [kis@z].  There's also adverbial
>
> "just", which is [dZi-st] for many.  But it's a fairly fine distinction, and
>
> perhaps only linguists make it......:-) >>
>
>     Often times, I have [I] in things like "roses" and "poses" and "kisses"
> and such.  However, I think there's free variation between [I] and [i-].
I'm not sure what I use for the plural /@z/. I know I differentiate between
<Rosa's> and <roses>, but what the vowels are I'm not sure of. I still
haven't decided how to transcribe that vowel; for a while I tried to write
it as /1/ (X-SAMPA for barred-i), as is done in a linguistics book I have,
but it still strikes me as a bit odd to do so. But then, so does using /I/.


> <<Then there's the sound we make when we see/smell something disgusting,
>
> wrinkling the nose and going [i-:::::]; I've never seen that in written
>
> form, though maybe "oooh" or "eeew" are attempts at it.>>
>
>     I would write, "ihhh" or "iyhhh".
As far as I know that always has some rounding, either just at the end or
all the way through. I think it's usually written like <ew> or <eew> or
<eeew> etc. Then again, myself and a few other people I know, but not most
people (AFAIK), do say /i:::/ sometimes, but that's different. It's usually
used as a "synonym" for "um yeah, ok, whatever you say..." when you're
being sarcastic, except that it seems to convey a sense of confusion without
the sarcasm. Or something.

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Eric Christopherson, a.k.a. Contrarian Conlanger Rakko ^_^