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Re: CHAT: national identity

From:Hawksinger <hawksinger@...>
Date:Sunday, May 16, 1999, 0:17
Adam Walker wrote:
> > >From: Tom Wier <artabanos@...> > >Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:55:51 -0500 > > > > Afterall, there are only *two* states that can claim to have existed > >in their own right as nation states before becoming part of the United > >States, > >and only one of those was a democratic republic (Texas). > > > >======================================================= > >Tom Wier <artabanos@...> > > Actually, that is not true. Texas was a republic, but so were
Actually it IS true.
>California > and Vermont and then there was the Free State of Franklin in Tennessee. The > other state to which I assume you were referring is the Kingdom of Hawaii.
Yes Hawaii was the other, Franklin and Vermont as free countries are stretching the definition to the breaking point. The declaration of the California as a free country had about 0 chance of succeeding and was quickly snuffed by US forces who basically ignored the whole thing. -- Brad Coon hawksinger@fwi.com listowner battleship-l http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7264/battleship-l.html http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/east1/coon/web/index.htm (home pg. et al.) http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7264 (outdoor and prim.skills) http://members.tripod.com/~Hawksinger (wine and whisky pgs) Civilize the mind and make savage the body. (Chinese proverb)