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IPA (Was: Re: Hello, I'm new too)

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Sunday, October 22, 2000, 0:21
On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 07:57:12PM -0400, Yoon Ha Lee wrote:
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> <helpless look> Perhaps it's obvious to those who know more > phonology/phonetics than I do (I know very little). I like IPA because > I can look it up, whereas with descriptions (tense obstruents) I get lost > very easily.
Me too. In fact, I even have a problem understanding what some IPA sounds are... The laterals and trills completely elude me thus far (except for the simplest laterals like the English l). Then there are the unvoiced nasals, which I just can't figure out. In general, though, consonants cause me less grief than vowels... I just do not *get* the IPA vowel system. It seems to make fine distinctions in what are allophones to me, and not-fine-enough distinctions in what I consider heterophones. T