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Re: conlan/natlang coincidences

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 3:38
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:26:12 -0400, James W <JWorlton@...> wrote:

>This got me wondering about how we all approach the specific creation of words in >conlangs, and how closely we try to relate them (or not!) to natlangs. >Obviously, for languages like Wenedyk and others the similarities are >conscious. But for others, like Orêlynna (my current conlang), I wonder how >consciously we try to *avoid* any forms that resemble natlangs.[2]
I borrowed a number of Tirelat words from Tilya, which were all randomly generated words to begin with. I ended up not keeping many of the random words, but I still tended to avoid natlang resemblances, even replacing the few borrowings like "piica" (pizza) with native Tirelat forms like "fazlizimi" (flatpie). Occasional accidental resemblances (Tirelat _moli_ "grain" vs. Spanish _molino_ "mill") were kept. Lindiga has quite a range from direct borrowings (kangúrru "kangaroo", perlína "jelly doughnut", pinki "pink (color)", trrêma "dieresis") to distorted borrowings (miti "three", mrryöni "maroon", nglusu "tongue", mapta "raccoon"), including borrowings from my other langs (jalicha "eagle" from Jarda "yalhka"). But most Lindiga words (chalem "burrow", muong "nose", nöki "many", rnangvi "sour", wesetl "side") are designed to avoid resembling any other language I'm familiar with. In the case of my new Zireen languages (none of which has really got off the ground yet), I'm deliberately trying to avoid resemblances to natlangs, since there'd be no reason (except unlikely coincidence) for words spoken by non-humans on a distant planet to sound familiar to humans. But coincidences do happen (Mbabaram "dog" = English "dog"), so I might sneak in a few "accidental" resemblances here and there. -- languages of Azir------> ---<http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/index.html>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any @io.com email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin

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