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Re: Weekly Vocab #1.2.3 (repost #1)

From:Lars Finsen <lars.finsen@...>
Date:Sunday, November 26, 2006, 15:40
Den 24. nov. 2006 kl. 05.01 skrev Henrik Theiling:

>> 1. president
Urianian: president Gaajan: not applicable. Highest office in a realm is the Aty, except that the Aty of Tnary is called Amaty, ranking higher than the rest. At least that is her opinion.
>> 2. office
U: ninsil G: kunjagat (workroom), kunjalin (reception-room)
>> The president whose office is oval has moved to the country. >> (I swear this juxtaposition was random)
U: Urianian has a genitive interrogative pronoun juja that could be used here, but it is more idiomatic to use a participle: Presidentas jumin ninsil oval ruriay tingtet. (president own-stat.part office oval move-perf peasant-acc.pl) G: Aty hegitsjati jaga isa kunjalinni gelis jusu. (Aty perifery-all move she-has-done office-her round-ish it-is-rel)
>> 3. trap
U: tigur G: waiduk
>> The hunter whose trap was empty is angry.
U: Gedusas rim jumin tigur van. (hunter-dem rage[-3s.pres] own- stat.part trap empty) - 3s.present is unmarked. G: Usaijaj awais iu waidukni uda ijusu. (hunter angry he-is trap-his empty it-was-rel)
>> 4. operate
U: opererid (surgical), urkid (run, work, make work), ilde (run, drive, chase) G: ylap (cut open), saren (operate, repair)
>> He operated on her.
U: Si opereri. (3s-acc operate-3s.past) G: Ylap ja. (operate he-did-to-her)
>> He knows how to operate a well/pump.
U: Kin urkana fruria. (knows operate-act.part.acc well-gen.sg) G: Ganje sure ajai okan saren ala. (way know he-does-it-for-it well operate he-does-it-subj)
>> 5. idea
U: mun (thought, purpose, idea), vinvit (approach, idea) G: kuru (idea, thought)
>> Whose idea was that?
U: Juja mun i dat? (whose idea was that - very literal now) G: Todan kunu kunuda iju? (whose idea idea-that it-was)
>> 6. blame
U: ligde (blame, slander), efsakzid (blame, demand apology) G: girw eme (give guilt, blame), ses eme (give responsibility), ses saral (assign or dispense responsibility)
>> The girl whose dress is torn blames you.
U: Merdis di lig firmin gyrdila rabin. (girl 2s.acc blames wear- stat.part dress-acc.sg torn) G: Ilike giro saral atai mugabni sabika jusu. (girl-erg blame give she-does-to-it-for-you gown-her torn it-is-rel)
>> 7. descriptive
U: kirfigan G: uraeika
>> The guy whose writing is very descriptive will probably win >> awards.
U: Nutis virutzi kukfet juja rufni bil kirfigan sin. (win-3s.fut probable-inst award-acc.pl who-gen.sg writing-nom.pl very descriptive are) G: Emuke gaikuwe tonisen sauti adajo suraetuniwe uraeikaegi junjisu. (guy/buddy-erg reward-pl probable-adv win he-will-do-to-it-cond tale- his-pl descriptive-much they-are-rel)
>> 8. upright
U: dilan G: lajus (erected)
>> It stood upright against the wall.
U: Teri dilni virdat. (stand-3s.past upright-inst wall-abl.sg) G: Jemti lajusen isju iju, (wall-all erected-adv stand it-did)
>> 9. everything
U: eld (singular) G: seged (plural)
>> Everything is as messed up!
U: Eld e sami azmin. (everything is same-inst messed-up) G: Seged roys giren junji. (everything messed-up alike-adv they-are)
>> 10. own
U: jug (own, possess), sun (adj.) G: aim (be with), -be (adj.)
>> The old woman who owns that cat is really mean.
U: Onak kirg sedi e nifig juja gedis e. (woman old really is mean/ miserly whose cat-dem is) G: Gumba aemenegi ju katida aim asu. (old-woman miserly-much she-is cat-that own she-does-to-it-rel)
>> I can barely see my own hand in front of my face.
U: Meam nigde bai ajid ma mera sun franu ma etsia. (can-1s enough badly see-inf my hand-acc.sg own front-loc.sg my face-gen.sg) G: Idumabe eka hylneman koti atla. (hand-my-own before face-my-gen see-all[=hardly see] I-do-to-it-subj.
>> topic: how to disambiguate (if at all) 3rd person referents
This is challenging both in Urianian and Gaajan since neither have gender pronouns. They resolve it I guess by naming subjects more often than what is usual in other languages.
>> 1. life
U: cui (life as phenomenon) end (a living thing) G: ku (possessable life), bisi (spiritual life), aun (life as force)
>> She owed her her life.
U: Su kili sa cuja. (3s.dat owe-3s.past 3s.gen life-acc.sg) G: Kuni giro jajai. (life-her owe she-did-to-it-for-her)
>> 2. journey
U: bird G: jagaun
>> Their journey to visit their friends was long.
U: Bird isan i til litsune felet isan. (journey their was long visit- act.part.dat friend-acc.pl) But I think it may be concieved to drop the second isan here. G: Jagaunui hegit jai emuwewi anai anjinjela. (journey-their long it- was-for-it friend-pl-their visit they-do-to-them-subj)
>> 3. brick
U: mird (wallstone), zuzun (fired brick) G: fala (building stone)
>> He gave his brick to him.
U: Su nimi sa zuzuna. (3s.dat give-3s.past 3s.gen brick-acc.sg) G: Fala eme jajai. (brick give he-did-to-it-for-him)
>> 4. merry
U: il G: ewe
>> She was merry all day at the festival.
U: Il i elun tuni festivalu. (merry was-3s.past whole day-inst.sg festival-loc.sg) G: Iraitem asusa ewe iju. (festival-loc day-whole merry she-was)
>> 5. fail
U: lug G: akedu (not succeed), bowa (make mistake, sin)
>> He failed to save him.
U: Lugi sa niskana. (fail-3s.past 3s.gen save-act.part.acc) G: Akedu ja imisu ala. (fail he-did-to-it save he-does-to-him-subj)
>> 6. approve
U: nir G: judaini
>> He approved his request.
U: Niri sa brigna. (approve-3s.past 3s.gen request-acc.sg) G: Samani judaini ja. (request-his approve he-did-to-it)
>> 7. jaw
U: ilni G: apojes
>> Their jaws were bruised from fighting their enemies.
U: Ilnet isan tuni san reskunat nidret (isan). (jaw-nom.pl their bruised-pl were fight-act.part.abl enemy-acc.pl) G: Apojesuwi daus ijunjira gajasuwi auti anjinjela. (jaw-pl-their bruised they-were-caus enemy-pl-their fight they-do-to-them-subj)
>> 8. hardship
U: culd G: baja (suffering, illness)
>> He thought his hardship too great to bear.
U: Deki sa culd i nigde ma firminai. (think-3s.past 3s.gen hardship was enough big bear-stat.part.dat) G: Urea ja bajaunike belimegi ainjela bai anjila. (think he-did suffering-pl-his-erg heavy-too they-are-for-it-subj suffer he-does-to- them-subj)
>> 9. whatever
U: ixus (anything) + dat G: to...aben (what...sometime/ever)
>> Whatever she did, she was not happy.
U: Ixurant zaju ni dezi. (anything-dat.pl do-3s.past.subj not be- happy-3s.past) G: Ara ewe ijura to aben isin ijula. (not happy she-was-caus what ever do she-does-to-it-subj)
>> 10. goods
U: bilv G: waje (thing, property, household goods)
>> Their goods were locked on their wagon.
U: Bilvi isan erkinan san gursu isan. (merchandise-nom.pl their locked-3s.pl were wagon-loc.sg their) G: Wajewewi wakuwi againjaim siunji. (property-pl-their wagon-their lock perf-they-were)
> Bonus Vocab from WordNet: > This is randomly selected automatically, so in case it offends you > or you disagree, please either ignore or be inspired to make up > different words and/or phrases: > > - Irish person, n. > a native or inhabitant of Ireland
U: jurianeg (interestingly, as 'Urianian person' is 'urianeg') G: fiujata (borrowed when the p was still there)
> - sum up, v. > give a summary (of); "he summed up his results"; "I will now > summarize"
U: sumrid (add up), tagc (draw together), kits (sketch) "Sumri sa medet." (add.up-3s-past 3s.gen achievement-acc.pl) "Nu kitsisam." (now sketch-1s.fut) G: dai (add up, tally), gerod (calculate, sum up) "Lanatuweni dai janji." (achievement-pl-his tally he-did-to-them) "Wan gerod ajut." (now sum-up I-will-do) LEF

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