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From: Wesley Parish <wes.parish@...>
To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...>; Jeff Jones
<jeffsjones@...>
Date: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 06:07
Subject: Re: Nawan a Praleyo - Praleyo is dead.
>On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:00, Jeff Jones wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:30:35 +1200, Wesley Parish
>> <wes.parish@...> wrote:
>>
>> I'm having some trouble following this part. Perhaps some complete
>> interlinears would help me?
>
>Your wish is my command :)
That helps. It also helps to read SVO as SVO instead of VSO.
>|En tref ma li' ierrat di nan a en
ierrat|
> I went to the hill conj sat-on (pers.) I the
hill.
>
>|Aiator a li' tua en di li'
tref
>loves (pers.) the midwife's daughter me and so she went
>
>ma u vaiti'anor u fait un en.|
>to a village of kin of mine.
>
>|iam u te li' vaniro ma un en|
>because she was looking for me
>
>the particle cluster |iam| = for |u| = such |te| = that, meaning
"because"
>en = I, me; li' = the, he, she; ma = to, for - the use of |ma| as "for"
is a
>colloquialism of the young and is deprecated by the elders; u = a, of,
from - >indicates that "x" is an indefinite quantity, or a part of a
larger group,
>when used as a prefix to a personal pronoun it indicates a certain
>uncertainty on the part of the speaker; -f is the past tense suffix, -o
is a
>present tense suffix, though there are several - strictly speaking
|vaniro|
>should read |vanirif| but because of the speaker's state of mind -
surprise
>and shock - he puts it into the present tense for added value; di =
and, but >(conjugation) only used with statives, largely because
statives themselves
>aren't agentive and don't cause per se results in their
Objects/Patients :
Coincidence: {f} is the past tense suffix in 'Yemls ([fU] or [f],
depending on what precedes).
AFMCL 'Yemls tenses are relative, so that verbs/adjectives used as or
qualifying an object or subject normally take the present (unmarked)
tense. This is especially true of adverbial clauses, which essentially
refer to another facet of the events/situation referred to by the main
verb. So 'Yemls would also put "looking for" in the present, albeit for
a different reason.
>nan a en ierrat = I sat on a hill; consequently the hill got up and
left?
>Bad breath? I farted? Mutual feelings of distaste at the other one?
>
>When the stative refers to the emotions, it is viewing them from the
>perspective of the person feeling them. Li' anyerra-tarah = "The
>coast-language" doesn't have a passive, and isn't interested in having
one.
Let's see if I can get this one:
> {Lu syara a li' ankhayan po'i di }
OPT bless PERS the rite-singer you CONJ
> { lu li' ankha'i li' hara li' hanya u po'i! - }
OPT she sing the health and strength of(?) you
>May the rite-singer bless you and may she sing your health and
strength!
>
>Wesley Parish
>> > consequently, complex sentence structures can be broken down into
>> > two forms:
>> > one where the consequence of the action is yet more action, in
which
>> > case there is a set of particles to carry over from SVO to SVO;
>> > the other where the action concludes in a placing or positioning of
>> > some sort (emotions are considered stative), or a
placing/positioning
>> > results in an action, where a simple conjugation indicates that the
topic
>> > of the SVO and the VS are the same -
>> >
>> > |En tref ma li' ierrat di nan a en ierrat|
>> > = I went to the hill and on the hill I sat.
>> >
>> > |Aiator a li' tua en di li' tref ma u vaiti'anor u fait un en.|
>> > = The midwife's daughter loves me and so went to a village of my
kin.
>> > ( |u| and |un| are partitive prepositions/indefinite articles.)
>> >
>> > If one were to say "because she was looking for me" one would need
to
>> > add
>> > |iam u te li' vaniro ma un en|, the particle cluster |iam| = for
|u| =
>> > such |te| = that, meaning "because".
>> >
>> > |li'| is both "the" when it preposes a noun, and "he", and "she" on
its
>> > own.
>> >
>> >Wesley Parish
>> >--
I did something similar: {d} was originally a general anaphoric marker
used as either pronoun or determiner. I changed this slightly, and the
current forms are: {d:} subject pronoun, {dd} object pronoun, and {d}
enclitic pronoun or determiner.
Jeff J.