Re: 'out-' affix in conlangs?
From: | Lars Mathiesen <thorinn@...> |
Date: | Thursday, August 14, 2008, 13:03 |
2008/8/13 Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>:
> Danish doesn't have it. Icelandic has /c/ for _g_
> and /c_h/ for _k_ before front vowels and Faroese
> has /tS/ (or perhaps /ts\/ w/o aspiration under
> like circumstances. Norwegian usually spells /s\/
> with _kj_, though not before _i_ or _y_. BTW
> Finland Swedish has [ts\] (Pinyin <q>) where
> Sweden Swedish has [s\] and [s\] where Sweden
> Swedish has [X]. English speakers can safely
> use [tS] for /s\/ and [S] for [X] **and** [s`].
A curious thing is that until early 20th century or so, Danish used to
have orthographic kj- and gj- before front vowels where there is only
k- and g- now. And no traces of palatalization in the standard
dialect.
I've only made half-hearted attempts to find out why, so I can't
really tell you. But maybe it was an attempt to maintain uniformity
with Norwegian -- the old 'bokmål' was almost identical with Danish in
spelling, but not in pronunciation, and having Danes ignore the -j-
and the Norwegians use it as a palatalization marker is sort of neat
if that was what was going on.
On the other hand, the old Copenhagen speech was part of a coastal
dialect continuum with Skåne and Bornholm dialects, and may have had
palatalization -- it is very apparent on Bornholm. (It was replaced by
a mix of inland Zealand dialects that became the standard language).
--
Lars
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> /BP
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