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Re: 'out-' affix in conlangs?

From:Lars Mathiesen <thorinn@...>
Date:Thursday, August 14, 2008, 13:03
2008/8/13 Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>:
> Danish doesn't have it. Icelandic has /c/ for _g_ > and /c_h/ for _k_ before front vowels and Faroese > has /tS/ (or perhaps /ts\/ w/o aspiration under > like circumstances. Norwegian usually spells /s\/ > with _kj_, though not before _i_ or _y_. BTW > Finland Swedish has [ts\] (Pinyin <q>) where > Sweden Swedish has [s\] and [s\] where Sweden > Swedish has [X]. English speakers can safely > use [tS] for /s\/ and [S] for [X] **and** [s`].
A curious thing is that until early 20th century or so, Danish used to have orthographic kj- and gj- before front vowels where there is only k- and g- now. And no traces of palatalization in the standard dialect. I've only made half-hearted attempts to find out why, so I can't really tell you. But maybe it was an attempt to maintain uniformity with Norwegian -- the old 'bokmål' was almost identical with Danish in spelling, but not in pronunciation, and having Danes ignore the -j- and the Norwegians use it as a palatalization marker is sort of neat if that was what was going on. On the other hand, the old Copenhagen speech was part of a coastal dialect continuum with Skåne and Bornholm dialects, and may have had palatalization -- it is very apparent on Bornholm. (It was replaced by a mix of inland Zealand dialects that became the standard language). -- Lars
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