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Re: 'out-' affix in conlangs?

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 15:35
On 2008-08-13 Eugene Oh wrote:
> I see, that's now cleared up. But one other question surfaces: is > <rk> [S_j] > a common sound sequence in all Scandinavian? Swedish only? The > Norrköping > dialect only? I ask because I've only heard of <sk> undergoing such a > change. > Eugene >
It has nothing to do with [rk]. As you have observed [rs] becomes [s`] (Pinyin <sh>) in most Swedish dialects, but there is also a much older sound change whereby [k] before front vowels became [s\] (Pinyin <x>) before front vowels, to be sure by way of [ts\] (Pinyin <q>) which is preserved in some dialects. Note that the [r] is still intact in [nor's\2:piN] (as it is pronounced in my lect, alveolar trill and all! :-) If I were to dare to spell _Norrköping_ in Pinyin it would be "nor-xe-ping" or "nor-qe-ping". NB the writing system doesn't mark either sound change :-(. This leads to minimal pairs sometimes, due to later loan words with velars before front vowels. If you find CXS hard, have a look at Hentrik's site <http://www.theiling.de/ipa/>. There's even a two-way CXS <-> Unicode IPA converter! /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "C'est en vain que nos Josués littéraires crient à la langue de s'arrêter; les langues ni le soleil ne s'arrêtent plus. Le jour où elles se *fixent*, c'est qu'elles meurent." (Victor Hugo)

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