Re: 'out-' affix in conlangs?
From: | Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 15:35 |
On 2008-08-13 Eugene Oh wrote:
> I see, that's now cleared up. But one other question surfaces: is
> <rk> [S_j]
> a common sound sequence in all Scandinavian? Swedish only? The
> Norrköping
> dialect only? I ask because I've only heard of <sk> undergoing such a
> change.
> Eugene
>
It has nothing to do with [rk]. As you have observed [rs]
becomes [s`] (Pinyin <sh>) in most Swedish dialects, but
there is also a much older sound change whereby [k] before
front vowels became [s\] (Pinyin <x>) before front vowels,
to be sure by way of [ts\] (Pinyin <q>) which is preserved
in some dialects. Note that the [r] is still intact in
[nor's\2:piN] (as it is pronounced in my lect, alveolar
trill and all! :-) If I were to dare to spell _Norrköping_
in Pinyin it would be "nor-xe-ping" or "nor-qe-ping".
NB the writing system doesn't mark either sound change :-(.
This leads to minimal pairs sometimes, due to later loan
words with velars before front vowels.
If you find CXS hard, have a look at Hentrik's site
<http://www.theiling.de/ipa/>. There's even a
two-way CXS <-> Unicode IPA converter!
/BP 8^)>
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Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se
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