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Re: Scouse final plosives (was: vowel descriptions)

From:BP.Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 16, 1998, 11:58
At 06:53 on 16.12.1998, Raymond A. Brown wrote:

> At 1:39 pm -0600 15/12/98, Tom Wier wrote: > >Nik Taylor wrote: > > > >> Raymond A. Brown wrote: > >> > (or in Scouse - one of my colleagues is Scouse - [bu:kx]). > >> > >> [kx]? Interesting. Is that a general rule, syllable-final (or perhaps > >> word-final) [k] --> [kx]? > > > >Also, do all voiceless stops become affricates like that? So, are > >there things like p --> [pf] / _# and t --> [ts] (or even [tT]) / _#? > > Yep - the final voiceless plosives have homorganic fricative release. So
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> > The fricative release after final /t/ seems to me closer to [T] in sound, > but it is not the standard dental [T]; it is an _alveolar_ fricative which > otherwise does not occur in the dialect.
This isn't as strange as may seem. Icelandic /T/ and /s/ differ not as dental vs. alveolar, but as laminal vs. apical alveolar, and the same is true about _z_ vs. _s_ in Basque. Maybe the laminal vs. apical articulator is the main distinction in English also, rather than the dental vs. alveolar place. Interestingly Icelandic speakers aren't bothered by the interdental vs. dental sounds I use...
> Ray.
/BP