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From: Andreas Johansson <>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: question - Turco-Japanese (a thought experiment for the group
here)
> Quoting Rodlox <Rodlox@...>:
>
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> > To: Rodlox Babnol <Rodlox@...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:54 PM
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> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
> > > To: <CONLANG@...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:50 PM
> > > Subject: Re: question - Turco-Japanese (a thought experiment for the
group
> > > here)
> > >
> > > > You might have hit on something here. I don't think the Turks had
any
> > much
> > > > aversion to killing fellow Muslims - one of the reasons medieval
Islamic
> > > rulers
> > > > liked Turkish slave-soldiers was supposedly that they were less
prone to
> > > such
> > > > inhibitions than Arabs and Persians - but while it will have been
very
> > > easy to
> > > > be assimilated by culturally superior Muslim Persians in Iran and
Arabs
> > in
> > > > Iraq/Syria/Egypt, the religious devide will have made it hard to be
> > > assimilated
> > > > by Christian Greeks and Armenians in Anatolia.
> > >
> > > um, the Turks became the rulers of Egypt (via those slave-soldiers -
the
> > > Mamluks)...and, culture and law was, at least in part, assimilated
from
> > the
> > > Byzantines and Armenians (etc), in part thanks to marriage between the
> > Turks
> > > and their predecessors.
>
> I do not understand what you are getting at. Are you saying you disagree
with my
> interpretation?
>
> The culture of the Anatolian Turks was influenced by the previous
inhabitants',
> sure, but the point is it was so to a much lesser degree than in Egypt,
where
> the Turks were basically entirely assimilated - Egypt is still an
> overwhelmingly Arab country, despite centuries of Turkic rule -, and
Persia,
> where Iranian-speakers still outnumber Turkic-speakers, and makes up the
> culturally dominant part of of the population to boot. My suggestion is
that
> the lack of a religious divide made assimilation easier in the later
places.
ahh...I think that's what/where I misunderstood.....I had [mistakenly]
thought that you were saying that there was not a Turkic influence/rule over
those other regions.
my apologies.
>
> Andreas
>