Re: Hear Me! Hear Me!

On Tue, 2002-06-25 at 11:35, Adrian Morgan wrote:

> > > > The vowel in 'boot' is more fronted (and long), but I wouldn't say
> > > > it was diphthongal.
> > >
> > > Agreed. I don't know of any dialects where it's diphthogonal.
> >
> > People tend to claim the Australian /u:/ is pronounced more like [@u:].
>
> Well, as you'll know, the dialect known as "broad Australian" [1] is
> characterised by such things as schwas being inserted before various
> vowels and "grown" being pronounced with two syllables. It could be
> something to do with that, although [@u:] would have to be very broad
> indeed - and we all know that broad Australian is not the dominant
> dialect in this country.
Yeah I know, but I've seen in actual printed books that recognise the
difference between broad and normal describe the Aussie /u:/ as
diphthongal. Also, 'grown' with two syllables doesn't sound 'broad',
it's something I'd associate more with the west (which, from my
perspective, includes Adelaide) and NZ.

Tristan.