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Re: Hear Me! Hear Me!

From:Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 6:48
On Tue, 2002-06-25 at 11:35, Adrian Morgan wrote:

> > > > The vowel in 'boot' is more fronted (and long), but I wouldn't say > > > > it was diphthongal. > > > > > > Agreed. I don't know of any dialects where it's diphthogonal. > > > > People tend to claim the Australian /u:/ is pronounced more like [@u:]. > > Well, as you'll know, the dialect known as "broad Australian" [1] is > characterised by such things as schwas being inserted before various > vowels and "grown" being pronounced with two syllables. It could be > something to do with that, although [@u:] would have to be very broad > indeed - and we all know that broad Australian is not the dominant > dialect in this country.
Yeah I know, but I've seen in actual printed books that recognise the difference between broad and normal describe the Aussie /u:/ as diphthongal. Also, 'grown' with two syllables doesn't sound 'broad', it's something I'd associate more with the west (which, from my perspective, includes Adelaide) and NZ. Tristan.