Re: Taxonomic list (and Re: poll 30? (long...Sal at her most voluble)

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From: "And Rosta" <a.rosta@...>

> Sally:
> > For what it's worth, you can see it at:
> >
> >     http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/teotax.html
> >
> > It's 88 printed pages, with about 3000 entries in English.  of those,
about
> > 1600 are entered in Teonaht.  Of those 1600 about 600 are already in the
> > Teonaht-English lexicon, which itself is about 1600 entries.  And the
> > entries in the taxonomy have some overlap.  So I don't really have any
idea
> > what number of words I've created for Teonaht, and only a vague idea of
> > what I've put on-line... much less than the 4000 + I thought I had.  I
> > counted the words in the yellowed pages and they came to about 2000, but
> > they overlap, <G> again, with what I've got up, and many are horribly
out
> > of date.  And so many are missing
>
> Fascinating. Hours of poring lie ahead of me (or would if time permitted:
> I have only got as far as the garden so far).
That's where I began to wig out.  Too many flowers to invent names for.  But
hey!  It's already been updated, some.  I'm updating it little by little
everyday.  The names of the month have been missing for years because I
absolutely HATED my sentimental, adolescent words for them.  Also, because
back in my salad days, when Teonaht existed primarily off-world, there was a
different lunar system.  I've now decided to make the Terran Teonim describe
their months according to the twelve precious stones and metals of the
Celestial City described in Revelation.  I have to upload the new file.

And war and government are still not properly filled in.  Nor are all the
things of the city, which is strange, since Tsorelai Mundya is a focal point
of my Teonaht imagining.

> Vocab creation has not been a priority for me, because I really need to
> get the function words sorted first so that I know which phonological
> space is free. But my plan is to end up with a Livagian > English
> wordlist, which would contain all Livagian word-forms (equivalent
> to listing inflected forms in an English dictionary), and a taxonomically
> structured 'thesaurus'. (This is also how I have tried to format my
> Lojban wordlists, though building the thesaurus is a time-consuming
> and incomplete job.)
You're telling me!!

> Because I have never ventured to introduce myself to the world
> of databases, I currently enter all Livagian words in a large table
> in a Word document. There's one column for alphabetizable spelling,
> one for the standard orthography, and one for the meaning. For readily
> taxonomizable words, the first word in the meaning column specifies
> its semantic category, so that sorting by this column yields a
> partial and rudimentary thesaurus. I'm sure all this could be done
> in a much better way -- & I'd be interested to hear people's advice
> on this -- but I mention it because it doesn't take much effort, yet
> gives proportionately good results.
I would be interested, too.  I've tried to use Excel, but I can't get it to
work.  What I want the Excel columns to do is "switch."  I can alphabetize,
but I can't seem to separate column A from Column B.  Column A can be
alphabetized, and it carries the Column B items with it.  But how do I get
Column B to become A and vice versa, which I can then alphabetize, and still
have all the words and meanings united?  My column B seems welded to Column
A.

Sally Caves
scaves@frontiernet.net
Eskkoat ol ai sendran, rohsan nuehra celyil takrem bomai nakuo.
"My shadow follows me, putting strange, new roses into the world."

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