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Re: First Post and Proto-Conlang rough sketch

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Thursday, March 1, 2007, 1:43
Hi!

Yukatado writes:
> Hello all ye good members of the ConlangML! > > My name is Jason, (although I would prefer to just go by my online > handle, Yukatado) and I've been a lurker on this list for since . . . I > think around 2003, if I remember correctly, but I've never posted yet. I > suppose it is high time for me to finally introduce myself.
Welcome to the list, Jason^H^H^H^H^HYukatado! :-)
>... > Here's a rough sketch of what I would like to do for the > Proto-Language itself: >...
> pet pent pents plents splents > pert perts plerts splerts > pets peyts pleyts spleyts > peyt plent pwents spwents > plet plert pwerts spwerts > pwet plets pweyts spweyts > spet pleyt spents > pwent sperts > pwert speyts > pwets splent > pweyt splert > spent splets > spert spleyt > spets spwent > speyt spwert > splet spwets > spwet spweyt
It's nice to see this designed in so much detail! Is there a design goal behind excluding 'r' when 'l' is allowed after plosives? It would feel like a natural pair to be included, with the possible exception of excluding 'l' after alveolar stops. (This may be a Latin-centric question :-)). Similarly, since the 'w' glide is allowed, is there a reason to exclude 'j'? This is a question out of curiosity -- I could imagine reasons or design goals easily that would make the above the first choice.
>... > kwes + peyt > kwospyt [kwospit] > peyt + kwes > poytkws [pojtkus] >...
Beautiful!
>... > Do relative clauses typically take a relative pronoun if the clause > precedes the noun it modifies, >...
I suppose not.
> or do they typically dispense with it as in Japanese?
More like that. In Mandarin, too. And if you compare participle constructions in German, those are similar, too. Have you had a look at internally headed relative clauses (IHRC)? I like them a lot and they are elegant for some purposes and since Japanese has them, your can investigate easily from where you are. :-)
>... > Anyway, any thoughts on the project, advice, help, whatever, is > welcomed and appreciated!
Very nice! Would be nice to read more! **Henrik