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Re: CHAT: measures (was: browsers)

From:Stephen Mulraney <ataltanie@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 11, 2003, 3:05
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:29:40 -0500
John Cowan <cowan@...> wrote:

> Imperial pints are ~ 568 ml, which I'm sure was the Australian value also. > Hence the British beer-drinker's lament: a litre is too much, half a > litre is too little, but a pint, ah, a pint is just right! Won't work > in the U.S., of course, since our pint is only ~ 473 ml.
Something I learned the hard way, in NY & NJ last week. But it leads me to wonder: some places offered, say, Guinness or Bass, in 20 oz glasses since they're Irish/British drinks. But did I get 20 U.S. oz or 20 Imperial oz? And a pint (Imperial) *is* just right :)
> However, gold and > silver are measured in troy pounds, which have only 12 troy oz. each. > (1 troy oz. = ~ 31.1 g, 1 troy lb. = ~ 373 g.) Hence the old question, > "Which weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of gold?" to which > the answer is "A pound of feathers", because it is an ordinary (aka > "avoirdupois") pound.
Sadly, as a kid, I translated "avoirdupois" as "to have peas" instead of "to have weight" . I imagined it had something to do with buying groceries :)
> A bushel, however, is 8 dry gallons. > (The bushels in which grain is sold, however, are weight-based, and > their size depends on what the grain is.)
Aagh! Dry gallons!
> Mincemeat is mincemeat everywhere. Mince is the chopped dried fruit > used to make mince pies, which presumably once contained mincemeat. > Ray Brown (IIRC) told me that mince pies were so-called in the U.K. as well, > and likewise did not contain meat.
Sure, but except in a festive context, "mince" is more common than "mincemeat" when "mincemeat" is intended. s. -- What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he Stephen Mulraney were like a man, but if he is an immense spinning| sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent? |e::ataltane~~~ -- Richard P. Feynman (1918-1988) |at


John Cowan <cowan@...>