Re: rinya pronouns

On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 03:11:14PM +0100, daniel andreasson wrote:
[snip]
> Something like that. _nenyr_ might possibly be _nönyr_ as well
> in some dialects. {ö} being [2]. This is crashing a bit with
> {¨} marking nasality. Perhaps nasal o is marked with ~ -> {õ}.
> Or [2] could be written {ø} instead of {ö}, but I like {ö} better.
I prefer {ø}, since it frees up the top space for diacritics :-P

[snip]
> > Interesting. In my mothertongue, [li] is the 2SG pronoun, though
> > it has mutated into [lu] around the time of my father's generation.
>
> My friend Josefin pointed out that 1p contained /m/ making it
> look similar to most European langs. This is however purely
> coincidental. Regarding /l/ in Hokkien (or Mandarin?), I had no
> clue. Cool! So where in the world do they have /t/ in 3p? :-)
Mandarin has [ta~1] for the 3p pronoun. In my L1 (Hokkien), though, it's
[i:]. Don't ask me why they're so different, I don't know. :-P

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> >         Masc.           Fem.            Epi./Neut.
> > Org.    e'b0 [?&bA]     `yb0' [ybA]     ib0'    [?ibA]
> > Rcp.    e'bu [?&bu]     `ybu' [ybu]     ibu'    [?ibu]
> > Instr.  e'ba [?&ba]     `yba' [yba]     iba'    [?iba]
> > Cvy.    e'b3 [?&bV"]    `yb3' [ybV"]    ib3'    [?ibV"]
> > Loc.    e'bi [?&bi]     `ybi' [ybi]     ibi'    [?ibi]
>
> How is _imï_ similar to these? Or do you mean all AGT pronouns?
> VCV, initial {i} or {y}? Yeah, I see the similarities. Swadesh
> anyone? :-P
Initial {i} and {y}, and also final {i}. Perhaps I should've listed the
locative forms for my conlang's 1p pronouns at the top instead of at the
bottom. The locative form, not the originative, is the "dictionary" form.
So the 1p pronouns would be listed as {e'bi}, {`ybi'} and {ibi'}, which
look kinda similar to your pronouns. :-)

The {e}, {i}, {`y} prefixes in my conlang, FYI, are actually proper-name
prefixes. Every (singular) proper name in my conlang begins with {e} for
masculine names, {`y} for feminine names, and {i} for neuter/epicene
names. So, in effect, you always address yourself as "Mr. I" or "Ms. I",
instead of just "I". :-)


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