Re: Racial Classification & credit line

In a message dated 2004:01:01 02:10:12 PM, andjo@FREE.FR writes:

>Quoting J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>:
>
>> In a message dated 2004:01:01 12:14:25 AM, andjo@FREE.FR writes:
>
>> >"Latinate" as a _race_? LOL ...
>
>>     Earlier in this century & as late as the early 1960's in the US South,
>> it was "Mediterranean"!
>
>Immediately, that makes more sense to me, because people from the
>Mediterranean basin do tend to look similar, to my foreign eyes; much more
>similar than Latin Americans, at any rate.
    Agreed.

> But I guess it was used to include
>Latin Americans, leaving it even just as pointless and even more opaque?
    Yepyep. I guess it is because in the Southern states Hispanic/Iberian
peoples were not as "recognized"/ recognizable (acknowledged) as those people
from the actual Mediterranean Inside Rim (MIR;)

    BTW in New Orleans, a lot of the first Mediterraneans were from Northern
Italy (mainly Milanese) and these "gentlemen criminals" owned icehouses,
juke-joints, jazz clubs and other Black establishments of entertainment besides
brothels and smoking dens. In these places the races mixed freely - all
imaginable levels... the segregationist South usually stopped at the doors to this
establishments.
    On several occassions, the Mediterraneans stood up for "their" Blacks and
prevented Race Riots and lynchings "by sly, underhand means" (usually by the
use of "green" - the only colour to cross racial barriers in the Ol'South
without a blink or pause or doubletake, but if the ol' Greenback Corruptor didn't
work, there always was the Icepick, the Pushdagger, the Derringer, the _Lupo_
(sawed-off shotgun) and the Stick o' Dynamite. No way the New Orleans _Mano
Negro_ [the infamous "Black Hand"] was gonna allow _any body_ to mess with their
"investments" or their "artists" for such a petty thing as skin colour: "We
all bleed. Bleed enough, we all die. Wanna die now or later?").

    So it is IMHO high-time to acknowledge the Mediterraneans as being the
"First Godfathers of Jazz, America's Classical Music. (Jews were the Second
Godfathers BTW and were also highly active in the Civil Rights movement till a
buncha "Afrocentric" anti-Semitic blabbermouths diss'ed 'em and pissed on them
[not good to bite the hands that can help ya the most, ya know]... despite the
fact that that quite a number of Jews were injured seriously on the Civil
Rights _frontlines_ - & that some even lost their lives in lynchings and
ambushes...It can be argued that the Jews of the Civil Rights movement were its Mind and
Spine and that all Black movements since have been rather "brainless and
spineless" - hence the roll back effect on the current state of civil rights... Ya
can't be picky with who is your ally, take 'em all and cherish 'em - we all
need allies -  ::goofily sings "I get by with Lil help from my friends...")

    Also if you look carefully at the all the faded black&white photos of the
early jazz drumsets (i.e., "Baby" Dodd's famous trapset), take close
appreciative note of the Chinese cymbals and tom-drums... if the Mediterraneans were
the Protective Godfathers of Jazz, the Chinese were the Intrepid Instrument
Suppliers of Early New Orleans Jazz...
    (And then of course Lil Italys and Chinatowns are usually next door
neighbors in nearly every major urban area in the US...)

    Aren't the oral histories and multicultural histories (i.e. Howard Zinn's
_The People's History of the United States_) oh so much more intriguing and
closer to the "true colours of real life" than the _authorized_, "official"
whitewashed textbook (per)versions of American History? (Don't _even_ get me
started on the building of the Pacific Railroad lines, the "Coolies", the San
Francisco Tong Wars, the Chinese Exclusion Acts, Hollywood images of "The
Chinaman," "Yellow Journalism", & Jack London the Racist...
    etc.)


In a message dated 2004:01:01 02:12:49 PM, christophe.grandsire@FREE.FR
writes:

>like everything is never all-white or all-black


In a message dated 2004:01:01 07:33:33 PM, kaprishi1 writes:

>Naturally, we
>don’t want to flaunt our religion in the face of
>others. We observe that Christian boys and girls take
>off or conceal their crosses in the corporate business
>world. Recently a Canadian TV documentary
>distinguished the bindi by calling it a “Cool Dot.”
>Times are changing, and to proudly wear the symbols
>that distinguish and define us is totally cool.

-
"X Natale ti regalo uno sguardo sul mondo... ti regalo..."


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