Re: Phoneme winnowing continues

Mark J. Reed wrote:

>On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 07:16:57AM +1000, Tristan McLeay wrote:
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>>At least in Melbourne, everyone has a long vowel in the same words (e.g.
>>bag, sag, sad, ban, lamb) and a short vowel in the same words (e.g. dad,
>>had, can, bat). Words like 'dowry' are often pronounced [d&:ri].
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>It's always bugged me that the vowel in "bag" and "sag" is considered to be
>the same as the one in "bad", "sad", "ban", etc.  In my idiolect,
>for whatever reason, that g changes things, and the /&/ gets realized
>as a diphthong, something like [&E], but a bit higher and tenser.
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Hmm, well, they're definately the same vowel for me which is why I
grouped them together. The vowel in 'bang' and similar words is /&i/
('long A'), though.

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