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Re: English syllable structure

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Sunday, December 9, 2001, 8:00
Quoting Tristan Alexander McLeay <anstouh@...>:

> On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Thomas R. Wier wrote: > > > My old professor at UT, Robert King, once told me a story about > > a trip of his to London a few years back. He was visiting with > > some woman there and they were discussing about a place to eat. > > She said: "Oh! There's this lovely new [t@.dZ&.n@u] restaurant > > around the corner!" (or to that effect, with that pronunciation). > > He said he shuddered inwardly, politely nodded and accepted her > > invitation. > > What's [t@dZ{n@u] supposed to mean?
<Tejano>. Most Texans will instinctively pronounce it [te(i)hAno(u)]*, which is reasonably close to the Spanish. When Anglos [in Texas this refers to anyone who is white and not-Hispanic] use it, they're usually referring to the style of food or music that Hispanics have contributed to Texan culture. *(I use parentheses because so many Texans speak Spanish fluently -- around 30% or so -- that it's quite likely you'll find people who use pure vowels for those words rather than diphthongs even when speaking English.)
> And it occurs to me that Americans are the people who say > /t@meito/ and /t{ko/ rather than /t@mA:t8u/ and /tA:k8u/ > (those latter two are Aussie pronunciations, and we're a > mixed bag of American and British, so I could be completly > wrong there...).
Depends on the part of the country. I can't imagine a Texan or anyone else from the Southwest of the country pronouncing it like [t&kou] rather than [tAkou]. That would be grounds for being laughed at. However, I could easily imagine a Chicagoan pronouncing the first vowel with something very nearly like [&], because of the vowel-shifts that are characteristic of that city. These same people would, however, have that same vowel everywhere that other Americans have /A/, in foreign loans or not. Most Americans do say [t@meir"ou], though. Because of the weird phonotactic rules of my idiolect, I usually say [tmeir"ou]. ===================================================================== Thomas Wier <trwier@...> <http://home.uchicago.edu/~trwier> "...koruphàs hetéras hetére:isi prosápto:n / Dept. of Linguistics mú:tho:n mè: teléein atrapòn mían..." University of Chicago "To join together diverse peaks of thought / 1010 E. 59th Street and not complete one road that has no turn" Chicago, IL 60637 Empedocles, _On Nature_, on speculative thinkers