Theiling Online    Sitemap    Conlang Mailing List HQ   

Re: Italian Particles

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Friday, April 21, 2000, 23:27
Muke Tever wrote:
> > >>Why can't the human brain be perfectly capable > >>of > >>thinking object first instead of subject first? > >> > >> Rain, I like it. Small step to: Rain I like. > >> The door, I closed it. The T say: The door I closed. > > > >This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're fronting the object _when > >it's the topic_. It's only when this becomes the default, unmarked order, > >so that the object comes first whether or not it's the topic, that it > >begins to sound "unnatural". > > How about something like Spanish "Me gusta comer manzanas"? Where "comer > manzanas" is the subject of the verb _gustar_. > > ('Me' isn't topic; to make the speaker topic wants "A mí me gusta...")
I thought this construction was simply dative with impersonal: "(it) pleases me to eat manzanas." Old English has a host of these, but we've lost the tendency now. Survives in Shakespeare's methinks. Sally -- ============================================================ SALLY CAVES scaves@frontiernet.net http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves (bragpage) http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/teonaht.html (T. homepage) http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/contents.html (all else) ===================================================================== Niffodyr tweluenrem lis teuim an. "The gods have retractible claws." from _The Gospel of Bastet_ ============================================================