Re: Unilang: the Grammar
From: | Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, May 1, 2001, 11:27 |
Hi!
SuomenkieliMaa <suomenkieli@...> writes:
> > - the language is supposed to be some kind of
> > proto-language for unbelievably complicated
> > languages yet to come. These will use a lot
> > of contraction to derive words from their
> > constructed ancestor, Tyl-Sjok.
> > By using composition now, I'll be able to
> > `compute' new stems in offspring languages.
>
> Here, however, I may comment this. If you intend of
> having Tyl-Sjok act as the "mother" tongue from which
> to base offspring languages, will it not be terribly
> confusing/difficult to proceed if the mother tongue
> already holds such hard-to-remember combinations as
> "move-use-foot" to describe "come/go"?
I wouldn't consider these hard to remember, because usually, I'd
simply use `move' and `use foot' is a clarification. But ok, maybe
some find it hard to remember. It's not meant to be an auxlang,
but I'll still think about it. :-)
> The offspring
> tongues' concept of these verbs must become
> mind-boggling I guess.
Well, either these languages borrow something from other languages, or
the words become mind-boggling. That's quite ok, I'll introduce a
politeness system in at least one languages that will scare away
Japanese. So it is good if the rest of complicated, too. :-)
> > - the language is meant to be (almost overly)
> > ambiguous. So usually, you simply don't use
> > the long phrase for `to come', but mere use
> > `to move'.
>
> Ambiguous, indeed! By the way, what sort of writing
> system will Tyl-Sjok have? Any incorporated at all,
> or is this just for a book, or...?
The writing system will contain roughtly the same information as the
spoken language. E.g. if prosody is important (currently, it is), it
will contain prosodic marks. It will be a mixture of phonetic and
semantic writing. But due to it's complex font for the semantic
annotations, I didn't yet finish the type set tool.
> If you're aiming
> at ambiguity, definitely a non-Latin alphabet /
> writing system is a must! I think I saw one earlier
> on Draseleq, when searching the net on conlang.
> Amazingly beautiful character system, although I do
> not care so much for "horizontal"
Same with my writing system. The pronunciation is put into half a
square. I think maximally five or six strokes are necessary to write
a disyllabic word. It is definitely not meant to be hand-written.
If you want to see the current version, I'll put a sample on my
web-page.
**Henrik
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