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Re: Number

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Monday, August 6, 2001, 12:16

Tristan Alexander McLeay <zsau@...> writes:
> From: "Henrik Theiling" <theiling@...> > > > Not exactly, but similar: German has [C] after front vowels. So the > > difference is `after' instead of `before' and `front' instead of > > `high': > > > > [a], [a:], [U], [u:], [O], [o:] + [C] > > others + [x] > > but isn't 'ich' [IC]? Rammstein pronounces it as [IS], which i've assumed is > their dialect's reflex of [IC], and when i learnt german, i learnt to say > [IC], blah blah blah
Ach, bach! Yes, yes, no, no, I mixed them up. It is exactly the other way around. My goodness. And additional to front vowels, consonants trigger [C] as well. So the corrected version is: [a], [a:], [U], [u:], [O], [o:] + [x] others (including consonants) + [C] And, of course, exceptions: - the morpheme -chen (little ...) is always [C@n] or [Cn=]. So it behaves more like a separate word. - -chs- is always [ks] if there is no morpheme boundary between -ch- and -s-: der Dachs [daks] des Fachs [faxs] ( of `Fach') - word-initial /ch/ is not predictable and varies in dialects between [C] and [k] ([x] is not possible): Chemie [Ce:"mi:] or [ke:"mi:] The standard says [C] I suppose. Also note that most dialects have quite a deep-throat [x], almost [X], aspecially after [a]. Hope this is complete and correct now. **Henrik


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