|From:||Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>|
|Date:||Monday, August 6, 2001, 12:16|
Tristan Alexander McLeay <zsau@...> writes:
> From: "Henrik Theiling" <theiling@...>
> > Not exactly, but similar: German has [C] after front vowels. So the
> > difference is `after' instead of `before' and `front' instead of
> > `high':
> > [a], [a:], [U], [u:], [O], [o:] + [C]
> > others + [x]
> but isn't 'ich' [IC]? Rammstein pronounces it as [IS], which i've assumed is
> their dialect's reflex of [IC], and when i learnt german, i learnt to say
> [IC], blah blah blah
Ach, bach! Yes, yes, no, no, I mixed them up. It is exactly the
other way around. My goodness. And additional to front vowels,
consonants trigger [C] as well. So the corrected version is:
[a], [a:], [U], [u:], [O], [o:] + [x]
others (including consonants) + [C]
And, of course, exceptions:
- the morpheme -chen (little ...) is always [C@n] or
[Cn=]. So it behaves more like a separate word.
- -chs- is always [ks] if there is no morpheme boundary
between -ch- and -s-:
der Dachs [daks]
des Fachs [faxs] (gen.sg. of `Fach')
- word-initial /ch/ is not predictable and varies in
dialects between [C] and [k] ([x] is not possible):
Chemie [Ce:"mi:] or [ke:"mi:]
The standard says [C] I suppose.
Also note that most dialects have quite a deep-throat [x], almost [X],
aspecially after [a].
Hope this is complete and correct now.