Re: Tsuhon: tentative phonology

There are minimal pairs in which the only difference is voicing:

fahren (unvoiced)
waren  (voiced)

Does that help?

-Weiben

On Thu, 26 April 2001, Yoon Ha Lee wrote:

>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Andreas Johansson wrote:
>
> > Henrik Theiling wrote:>Hi!
> > >
> > > > > From my (limited) experience, German {schw} is normally realized as
> > >[Sv_0],
> > >
> > >I never noticed this, but the [_0] seems to be true for me!  It is
> > >different from [Sf] as I always thought it was [Sv] (so definitely the
> > >/v/-phoneme).
> > >
> > I'm thinking that the phonemic difference between German /f/ and /v/ is
> > fortis vs lenis, not unvoiced vs voiced. Don't take my word for it tho' -
> > perhaps you know some German phonetician you could ask?
>
> To clarify: one is pronounced more forcefully than the other?
> Could be...it sounds like it could be right, but I haven't heard a
> fluent/native speaker of German in quite a long time.  D'you know, I'm
> still on good terms with my German TA from last semester.  I'll drop her
> an email and ask if she knows, or knows where I can find out.  :-)
>
> YHL

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